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So what if we go 8-4
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:01 am
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:01 am
but it's a different type of 8-4...
Let's say we lose our opener, lose to Arky, lose to State and SC.
Win everything else, including Bama, LSU, Auburn.
AKA starting slow and finishing strong. How do you feel?
Let's say we lose our opener, lose to Arky, lose to State and SC.
Win everything else, including Bama, LSU, Auburn.
AKA starting slow and finishing strong. How do you feel?
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Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:15 am to Jobu93
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Let's say we lose our opener, lose to Arky, lose to State and SC.
If we lose to UCLA, Arkansas, and South Carolina, that starts the season at 2-3 and Sumlin is fired before the Alabama game.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 10:57 am to Jobu93
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Let's say we lose our opener, lose to Arky, lose to State and SC.
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How do you feel?
Aggy.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 12:42 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Sumlin is fired before the Alabama game.
Basically my thoughts.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 1:53 pm to Jobu93
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Win everything else, including Bama, LSU, Auburn
Our feelings about the season won't matter because we're all just going to be trying to survive in the post-meteor-that-caused-this-crazy-scenario-to-happen world.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 2:25 pm to Projectpat
It's far fetched but I'm wondering if there is a different level of an 8-4 that Sumlin survives.
If we finish hot after a sluggish start, like the exact opposite of the last couple of years.
If we finish hot after a sluggish start, like the exact opposite of the last couple of years.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 2:27 pm to Jobu93
If they don't fire Sumlin midseason and we finished that way, he would probably be safe. I still wouldn't feel good about the state of our program.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 2:39 pm to Farmer1906
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Basically my thoughts.
His contract is pretty much guaranteed, right? So firing during the season or after doesn't save the school any money. Firing him just forces the school to pay up the entire contract that is left. If Sumlin is fired on January 1, 2018, then he is owed 10 million on the spot. If fired after Alabama, Sumlin would be owed ~11.25 million dollars.
There is an interesting clause that states Sumlin is responsible for any NCAA violations caused by his assistants or administrators. That's definitely a weasel way out for us if we decide to take a slap in the wrist from the NCAA in order to avoid paying 10 million.
Posted on 7/28/17 at 3:45 pm to Jobu93
Everything depends on how the games are lost.
If they go 8-4 but all the loses are close, I think he at the very least could have the bowl game to try and save his job.
Certain games will carry different kinds of weight as well. A beatdown by Bama is all but expected for pretty much every single team they play almost automatically making this the least important loss of the year. However, a total domination by Auburn with Stidham shredding the team on Kyle Field would turn up the heat so high that Sumlin would have to win out to have any shot at remaining.
If they go 8-4 but all the loses are close, I think he at the very least could have the bowl game to try and save his job.
Certain games will carry different kinds of weight as well. A beatdown by Bama is all but expected for pretty much every single team they play almost automatically making this the least important loss of the year. However, a total domination by Auburn with Stidham shredding the team on Kyle Field would turn up the heat so high that Sumlin would have to win out to have any shot at remaining.
Posted on 7/29/17 at 5:01 pm to Jobu93
If we won 8 games that way with the team we will have this year...I'd say sign him to an extension, because the only way this squad wins 8 games in that fashion under sumlin is if his being has been taken over by a superior coaching entity.
This post was edited on 7/29/17 at 11:03 pm
Posted on 7/30/17 at 9:05 am to Dr RC
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However, a total domination by Auburn with Stidham shredding the team on Kyle Field would turn up the heat so high that Sumlin would have to win out to have any shot at remaining.
My prediction is that this event more than anything else will be THE single thing pointed to as the straw the broke the camel's back. Every Aggie fan from the high school kids to the 80 year old big cigars knows we could have had Stidham by basically just saying "yes" to him coming. He was recruiting himself to us instead of the other way around. If, after turning him down, he torches us on the way to a big Auburn win in another 8-5 or less season, Sumlin is toast. That'll be the ultimate embodiment of his poor decision making with respect to the QB position.
Posted on 7/30/17 at 9:19 am to Jobu93
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It's far fetched but I'm wondering if there is a different level of an 8-4 that Sumlin survives. If we finish hot after a sluggish start, like the exact opposite of the last couple of years.
That's an interesting scenario to think about, but I think it's the least likely of all possibilities. The primary reason Sumlin's in the position he's in and will likely be fired at the end of this season is because of the perpetual end of season collapses and the end of season collapses keep occurring due to fundamental problems with the nature of Sumlin's style.
So in order for a reverse-crash to happen, Sumlin would have had to have fundamentally transformed who he is during the offseason, which didn't happen.
Sumlin has created a program full of soft players. Not only are they soft, but once they're up 4-1, 5-0, Sumlin hypes them to themselves to the point where every year they become thoroughly convinced they're going to win a national championship. Then, just when they're sucking their own dicks so hard they're suffocating - with Sumlin encouraging them and giving them back-rubs - they have to play Alabama. Alabama proceeds to rip their dicks off like a pitbull after a hog. Subsequently, with their national championship bubble burst, without any leadership from their "coach" who is more of a cheerleader and fluffer than coach, our squad of entitled titty babies has nothing to play for anymore (in their minds) and quits. Then we go on to lose to the shitty Mississippi schools and Kansas States of the world, because we quit the second we aren't going to win the natty.
This post was edited on 7/30/17 at 9:25 am
Posted on 8/2/17 at 11:43 am to Jobu93
IMO the only reason we should fire Sumlin this year is if we have a home run hire waiting to fill his shoes. We should have done it last year but we didn't. Give him 2017 and 2018 and see how his recruits work out.
If we go 8-4 this year I will be pleasantly surprised. Even if the losses are to UCLA, Auburn, LSU, and Bama. It would suck, but I don't expect much from this year as of right now.
If we go 8-4 this year I will be pleasantly surprised. Even if the losses are to UCLA, Auburn, LSU, and Bama. It would suck, but I don't expect much from this year as of right now.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 2:16 pm to Texas Weazel
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His contract is pretty much guaranteed, right? So firing during the season or after doesn't save the school any money. Firing him just forces the school to pay up the entire contract that is left. If Sumlin is fired on January 1, 2018, then he is owed 10 million on the spot. If fired after Alabama, Sumlin would be owed ~11.25 million dollars.
Right but we're going to pay him during the season if we wait to fire him. The money is the same.
Posted on 8/2/17 at 5:51 pm to AggieDub14
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Give him 2017 and 2018 and see how his recruits work out.
If he stays for next season, you have to extend him for "recruiting purposes".
Head coach who is on the last year of his contract and not extended = Dead man walking
Posted on 8/2/17 at 8:58 pm to Cooter Davenport
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once they're up 4-1, 5-0, Sumlin hypes them to themselves to the point where every year they become thoroughly convinced they're going to win a national championship. Then, just when they're sucking their own dicks so hard they're suffocating - with Sumlin encouraging them and giving them back-rubs - they have to play Alabama. Alabama proceeds to rip their dicks off like a pitbull after a hog. Subsequently, with their national championship bubble burst, without any leadership from their "coach" who is more of a cheerleader and fluffer than coach, our squad of entitled titty babies has nothing to play for anymore (in their minds) and quits. Then we go on to lose to the shitty Mississippi schools and Kansas States of the world, because we quit the second we aren't going to win the natty.
It's funny bc it's true
Posted on 8/5/17 at 8:54 pm to Jobu93
Looking at our schedule it's a good possibility we start 5-0 again. We're simply better than UCLA, Arkansas and USC. In fact I don't expect any of those teams to win more than 7 games. If UCLA were at home I'd go so far as to say it's more likely than not we start 5-0, but a new QB on the road to open a season is always tough (though UCLA has a pretty mediocre HFA).
The problem is that we will almost certainly lose the next two to Bama and Florida and then must finish 4-1 to finally break our run of 8 wins. Given that LSU and Auburn are near locks to be better than us I just don't see it happening.
I also wouldn't be surprised to see OM beat us in Oxford. Shea Patterson is the type of QB that destroys us.
The problem is that we will almost certainly lose the next two to Bama and Florida and then must finish 4-1 to finally break our run of 8 wins. Given that LSU and Auburn are near locks to be better than us I just don't see it happening.
I also wouldn't be surprised to see OM beat us in Oxford. Shea Patterson is the type of QB that destroys us.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 3:18 pm to Roger Klarvin
What would not shock me is an unexpected loss (South Carolina) and an unexpected win (Auburn or LSU) this season.
Posted on 8/6/17 at 5:07 pm to PhilipMarlowe
Stidham is still a big if
Posted on 8/6/17 at 6:37 pm to Slotback
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What would not shock me is an unexpected loss (South Carolina) and an unexpected win (Auburn or LSU) this season.
Feels like we have one of those every year.
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