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Posted on 5/30/16 at 5:54 pm to
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/30/16 at 5:54 pm to
I agree it's low but probably higher than you think. He's not coaching anywhere (including Baylor) until this process plays out though. And he's 60.
Posted by Chill98
Member since Aug 2015
2151 posts
Posted on 5/30/16 at 6:17 pm to
He doesn't have to work. He made almost $6M last year in a state without income tax. He's been making that kind of money since 2013 and was getting a decent amount before. Baylor signed him to a 10-year contract that isn't over until 2023.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:20 am to
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He doesn't have to work.


That depends on what his debt obligations are.

I know that for myself and most people I know, the more you make, the higher you adjust your lifestyle, and the end result is not really saving any more than you did before you made as much as you do now.

If he's mortgaged a ski house in Jackson, a beach house in Malibu, some sort of large ranch here in TX, houses for his kids, bought himself a nice offshore fishing rig, and invested in various business interests as people of this income bracket are wont to do, he might need that continuing $6MM/yr.
Posted by Chill98
Member since Aug 2015
2151 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 7:20 pm to
Found this on the Our daily Bears website. It is a discussion on how the NCAA interpreted rules for the PSU case and comparing it to the BU situation.

LINK -
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 5/31/16 at 8:57 pm to
I'm on record as believing the NCAA overstepped their authority in the PSU case. They put on a show to make everyone feel better instead of simply letting the authorities and the courts do their job.

However, in Baylor's case the infractions were far more intimately related to on field performance. I would not object to them receiving NCAA punishment, and obviously if they paid players it's a no brainier.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
20474 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:24 am to
So is briles fired or what? I know officially he's "suspended with intent to terminate", but wtf does that actually mean? I don't believe I've ever come across that. And why isn't he just outright fired?

I've been meaning to ask this.
Posted by Chill98
Member since Aug 2015
2151 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 5:52 am to
Baylor fired two support staff. I believe Briles is suspended. They are letting Grobe go out and recruit the 2016 players that didn't show up on campus.
This post was edited on 6/1/16 at 3:56 pm
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 8:43 am to
quote:

I'm on record as believing the NCAA overstepped their authority in the PSU case. They put on a show to make everyone feel better instead of simply letting the authorities and the courts do their job.


I agree.

I also think the NCAA would be within the scope of their authority in some aspects of the Baylor fiasco because they punished an NCAA scholarship athlete for coming forward by reducing her scholarship.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19307 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

I know officially he's "suspended with intent to terminate", but wtf does that actually mean? I don't believe I've ever come across that. And why isn't he just outright fired?


They may be looking to see if they have a basis to fire him "for cause" (and, thus, avoid any buyouts and/or future payments). Otherwise, yes he can be fired at-will (Texas is an at-will employment state), but if the firing is "without cause" they'll be on the hook for quite a bit.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19307 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:08 pm to
And apparently there's a rumor that, although Starr was kept on as "chancellor", he's stepping down from that post too.

(Source is the message board that shall not be named)
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
20474 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 1:35 pm to


Yeah, I had assumed it had to do with contractual settlements/buyouts, but wasn't sure.
Posted by Chill98
Member since Aug 2015
2151 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 3:57 pm to
1) Title IX suit has been filed.
2) Devin Chafin will not return to team.
3) Sounds like Devernay twins and Parrish Cobb want out of LOI. Sips say Don Devernay already released.
Posted by Chill98
Member since Aug 2015
2151 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 6:12 pm to
Found a new article that sums up current issues.

Baylor's class that signed in February ranked as the best in school history, butPatrick Hudson, J.P. Urquidez, Jared Atkinson, Kameron Martin, Parrish Cobb and Donovan Duvernay have already requested releases from the letters of intent that bind them to the university, sources close to all seven confirmed.

Fellow signee Devin Duvernay, the No. 3 receiver in the ESPN 300 and the top prospect in Baylor's class, intends to request his release and is close to completing that process.


LINK
Posted by leoj
Member since Nov 2010
3106 posts
Posted on 6/1/16 at 8:30 pm to
Man there was a part of a segment on the ticket this afternoon, I missed the first part as to who wrote this or said this, but someone called out Briles for all the shady and unsportsmanlike shite he pulled while at stephenville. I wish I could find it or had heard who said it.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19307 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 7:48 am to
quote:

Title IX suit has been filed.


That WILL end up being worse than anything the NCAA could do. They're dealing with FedGov now, and unless they intend to become another Hillsdale College (which doesn't take ANY FedGov money) they could be looking at some serious financial straits.
Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
2983 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 10:35 am to
Hahaha Baylor didn't process Devin Durvenay's NLI and now he's free to go wherever. Nice job fricking up a commit from a top 40 national player.
Posted by Howdyagssec
va beach
Member since Dec 2013
662 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 10:38 am to
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 10:49 am to
Are we in the running for any of these Baylor recruits? Seems like we have the roster space right?
Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
2983 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 10:53 am to
quote:

Are we in the running for any of these Baylor recruits? Seems like we have the roster space right?

We have ~7 spots open, so yes we have plenty of room.

I'd guess we don't land any of the 2016 Baylor commits, just because there seems to be much more smoke around Texas and OOS schools. Would love Hudson or Devin, just don't see it happening.
Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
2983 posts
Posted on 6/2/16 at 11:08 am to
UT/TCU for Devin :(
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