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Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:38 am to Farmer1906
Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:38 am to Farmer1906
I personally want a president who will be unbiased and fair, not a preacher who blames everything on everyone except himself. I can't believe how a lot of people can't see past Ted Cruz's schtick. The guy once said,
before he ever attempted to run for president. This screams opportunist.
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avoid ostentatiously wrapping yourself in your faith
before he ever attempted to run for president. This screams opportunist.
This post was edited on 2/4/16 at 11:39 am
Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:07 pm to Farmer1906
quote:I hate Ted Cruz's interpretation of the constitution, let's put it that way.
Why? Do you hate the constitution?
The problem with the "typical" conservative interpretation is that they read two amendments broadly: the 2nd and the 10th. They give far too much undue deference to government with the rest. And the 14th is treated as a minor inconvenience instead of the drastic overhaul (or... reconstruction) it was.
This post was edited on 2/4/16 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 2/4/16 at 1:05 pm to Iosh
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they read two amendments broadly: the 2nd
How should they read the 2nd amendment?
Posted on 2/4/16 at 2:01 pm to texag7
That's not what I'm objecting to silly
Posted on 2/4/16 at 2:25 pm to greenbastard
But who else is there? Cruz is a smarmy know-it-all, but Hillary Clinton is a crook (yea she's been slippery enough to have avoided indictment, but smoke has followed her wherever she's been) and Bernie is an economic illiterate whose "fair share!" bullshite isn't even tenuously anchored in reality.
Posted on 2/4/16 at 2:40 pm to Ash'sProstheticHand
What do you mean "who else is there?"
Do you live in Texas? You're not going to cast the swing vote. The odds are astronomically against it even if you live in Florida, because by the time the margins get that close the outcome will be determined by who wins the legal challenges (the difference between the Bush recount method and the Gore recount method was something like ~1,000 votes)
Nut up and vote your conscience. Write someone in if you want to. Vote for yourself!
Do you live in Texas? You're not going to cast the swing vote. The odds are astronomically against it even if you live in Florida, because by the time the margins get that close the outcome will be determined by who wins the legal challenges (the difference between the Bush recount method and the Gore recount method was something like ~1,000 votes)
Nut up and vote your conscience. Write someone in if you want to. Vote for yourself!
This post was edited on 2/4/16 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 2/4/16 at 2:50 pm to Iosh
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What do you mean "who else is there?"
Do you live in Texas? You're not going to cast the swing vote. The odds are astronomically against it even if you live in Florida, because by the time the margins get that close the outcome will be determined by who wins the legal challenges (the difference between the Bush recount method and the Gore recount method was something like ~1,000 votes)
Nut up and vote your conscience. Write someone in if you want to. Vote for yourself!
Is he personally going to cast the swing vote? Almost assuredly not. Just as he personally yelling at the top of his lungs isn't going to make Kyle thunder with the voice of the 12th Man.
So he should just not care, right?
Or maybe he realizes that, despite not having much effect by himself, when thousands and thousands of people who share his attitude also share his actions, they can accomplish impressive things.
Or they can just blow it off.
This post was edited on 2/4/16 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 2/4/16 at 2:51 pm to Mirthomatic
quote:Reading not your strong suit? I said vote your conscience, not don't vote.
So he should just not care, right?
This post was edited on 2/4/16 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 2/4/16 at 3:24 pm to Iosh
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Reading not your strong suit? I said vote your conscience, not don't vote.
Settle down, Beavis, you said his vote isn't going to matter, so vote for whoever. Hell, he should vote for himself!
When it's just one person taking that view, you're right it makes no difference. When it's thousands upon thousands, it makes a huge difference.
You can't be the WHOLE problem or the WHOLE solution, but you WILL be either PART of the problem or PART of the solution. If you just don't think any candidate is worth a bucket of warm spit, then sure, blow it off. Or vote Gary Johnson (but I repeat myself). Otoh, if you recognize that there are real differences between the candidates, and some are measurably better than others, then yeah, you should vote for the best feasible candidate.
Posted on 2/4/16 at 3:49 pm to Iosh
I missed a lot jumping into the middle of the discussion like this but the other couple posters got it right. I'm not worried about my own particular vote
Posted on 2/4/16 at 4:54 pm to Ash'sProstheticHand
Your vote in Texas doesn't matter.
That's why, since I don't like any candidate this year and didn't last presidential election either, I vote for Gary Johnson.
That's why, since I don't like any candidate this year and didn't last presidential election either, I vote for Gary Johnson.
Posted on 2/4/16 at 4:58 pm to Cooter Davenport
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Your vote in Texas doesn't matter.
That's why, since I don't like any candidate this year and didn't last presidential election either, I vote for Gary Johnson.
Well, your vote matters quite a bit more in the primary. Texas is a proportional state w/ a winner-take-all threshold. That can mean a huge delegate shift, if things fall right for the winner. Of course, if no one floats your boat, that wouldn't matter much.
Posted on 2/4/16 at 5:12 pm to Mirthomatic
They don't float my boat at all. None of them. So I don't participate in the primary. Back in the day I did, so I could vote for Ron Paul. But there's no Ron Paul in this race.
There's a candidate out there who matches my political ideology, he's just not in either party that has a chance. He started his own construction business, built his own house, and after being a 2-term governor who left his state with a surplus, he has climbed the tallest peaks on every continent in the world: Gary Johnson. It's a throw-away vote, but at least I feel good about it.
There's a candidate out there who matches my political ideology, he's just not in either party that has a chance. He started his own construction business, built his own house, and after being a 2-term governor who left his state with a surplus, he has climbed the tallest peaks on every continent in the world: Gary Johnson. It's a throw-away vote, but at least I feel good about it.
This post was edited on 2/4/16 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:39 pm to Cooter Davenport
I voted for Johnson last election, as well.
My politics is probably more similar to Barry Goldwater, than any of the new bunch. I don't like the government telling people what they can ingest or eat, or who it can marry, or what it can do in the bedroom, or how it can spend its time, or what it can grow on its private land, or anything like that.
I love reading guys like Thomas Paine.
What scares me about the religious right is that I don't want anyone forcing me to follow their religious interpretation of the Bible (or Koran or anything else). I don't want that door opened. Leave it shut, and let people self-determine their own paths.
Of course, I grew up in a traditional Texas household that was innately skeptical of all things government. Back in the day, there was a healthy skepticism of politicians, but today -- the masses have been snookered into believing that one side is good and one side is bad, when the truth is... they're both two sides of the same coin.
Big government Republicans are no different than big government Democrats. They just choose to spend the money in different areas of government. But instead of using the cash-and-carry model of liberals, they cut taxes. They're tax-cut-and-spend, which is actually even more fiscally irresponsible.
Republicans vote to cut PBS and save $10 million, while in the same session vote to spend hundreds of millions on bombing someone else. That's not saving money -- that's spending money we don't have.
The GOP today reminds me of an old girlfriend I had that would buy a new pair of shoes and keep them in a box, then take them back when there was a sale and purchase them for less -- then claim she saved $50, while still spending $150 (instead of original $200). She seemed oblivious to the fact that she still spent $150.
My politics is probably more similar to Barry Goldwater, than any of the new bunch. I don't like the government telling people what they can ingest or eat, or who it can marry, or what it can do in the bedroom, or how it can spend its time, or what it can grow on its private land, or anything like that.
I love reading guys like Thomas Paine.
What scares me about the religious right is that I don't want anyone forcing me to follow their religious interpretation of the Bible (or Koran or anything else). I don't want that door opened. Leave it shut, and let people self-determine their own paths.
Of course, I grew up in a traditional Texas household that was innately skeptical of all things government. Back in the day, there was a healthy skepticism of politicians, but today -- the masses have been snookered into believing that one side is good and one side is bad, when the truth is... they're both two sides of the same coin.
Big government Republicans are no different than big government Democrats. They just choose to spend the money in different areas of government. But instead of using the cash-and-carry model of liberals, they cut taxes. They're tax-cut-and-spend, which is actually even more fiscally irresponsible.
Republicans vote to cut PBS and save $10 million, while in the same session vote to spend hundreds of millions on bombing someone else. That's not saving money -- that's spending money we don't have.
The GOP today reminds me of an old girlfriend I had that would buy a new pair of shoes and keep them in a box, then take them back when there was a sale and purchase them for less -- then claim she saved $50, while still spending $150 (instead of original $200). She seemed oblivious to the fact that she still spent $150.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 4:09 pm to CowTownReb
I'm watching a little New Hampshire coverage this afternoon and it's amazing how tone deaf Jeb! is. In a year when there is so much rage at establishment career politicians, Jeb! is trotting out his Mommy, Daddy, and big bro to defend him against Trump. It would be funny if he wasn't wasting so much fricking money.
Rarely watch the Daily Show, but Trevor Noah nailed it a couple weeks ago. The Jeb! campaign is like a bad Nigerian email scam: "My father was president; my brother was president; I was supposed to be president."
Rarely watch the Daily Show, but Trevor Noah nailed it a couple weeks ago. The Jeb! campaign is like a bad Nigerian email scam: "My father was president; my brother was president; I was supposed to be president."
Posted on 2/5/16 at 4:32 pm to PowerTool
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Trevor Noah
Totally off topic, but that dude is a terrible host for the daily show.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 11:50 pm to greenbastard
He may be a bad host, but I still think his German bit is absolutely hilarious.
German
German
This post was edited on 2/5/16 at 11:51 pm
Posted on 2/7/16 at 8:48 am to Old Sarge
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