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re: Just when we thought Simple Dick would stop embarrassing our state and our schoo

Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:08 pm to
Posted by Texas Weazel
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Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:08 pm to
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Dude you clearly missed everything I said. Idc if people compare him to Hitler. I'm not defending him. I don't even like him

I say take it to him.

I know Trump fans may think this is a personal witch hunt, but he is president elect. Dude deserves everything he gets. It comes with the job. Scrutinize and keep digging; it's the only way to keep him honest. He better build that wall and Mexico better pay for it. I don't want to pay for that shite via taxes (remittance included). A promise is a promise.

Posted by Texas Gentleman
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Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:09 pm to
This hindsight 20/20 backwards looking is total bull shite. Just like the 10 students of 50,000 who were trying to get the Sull Ross statue removed from campus just because he fought for the confederacy. There were different social norms and expectations back then, holding people to a different standard now which is in a totally different environment from hundreds of years ago is stupid.

trump is not the perfect candidate, by a long shot. But he's a million times better than Hillary. Numerous business owners and just regular people I've talked to are super excited for this presidency. Lowered business taxes, hopefully a return to cheaper health insurance, and less government oversight has a ton of people excited. And y'all should be too. The founding fathers didn't leave Great Britain because they loved a big powerful government breathing down their neck and regulating everything while taking obscene amounts of taxes.I truly don't understand the mindset of you big democrat liberals. Truly do not.
Posted by Texas Weazel
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Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:11 pm to
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TRUMP, on the other hand, has a will for excellence, not self-immolation. He will not make the same mistakes as Hitler. TRUMP will conquer the planet, his scientists will find the science to make him effectively immortal, and his empire will seed the universe with human habitation.


Die Wunderwaffen!
Posted by Nguyening
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Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:11 pm to
#hitlerhadsomegoodideas
Posted by Texas Gentleman
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Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:12 pm to
And kudos for having the most derailments on a single thread I've ever seen. We've gone from perry being appointed to the energy position, to debating Kate upton's fatness, to election hypotheticals, to trump's upcoming presidency. Well done gents.
Posted by Texas Weazel
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Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:14 pm to
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trump is not the perfect candidate, by a long shot. But he's a million times better than Hillary.

It's sad that we even have to say shite like this.

Settling for the least smelly shite.
Posted by Texas Weazel
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Posted on 12/15/16 at 2:16 pm to
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to debating Kate upton's fatness,

Kate Upton ain't fat you motherfricker! She's just chunky! Ain't nothing wrong with that...no sir!

Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 12/15/16 at 3:32 pm to
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TRUMP, on the other hand, has a will for excellence, not self-immolation




Why didn't you just tell me you were trolling? Makes perfect sense now. Good one. You had me going there.

And trains are for little kids to play with. I prefer flying.
This post was edited on 12/15/16 at 3:39 pm
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 12/15/16 at 3:34 pm to
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He better build that wall


Why build something that will be torn down by future leaders? It's such a waste of money and time. Let's build up our roads and bridges and schools. frick the wall.
Posted by Nguyening
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Posted on 12/15/16 at 3:47 pm to
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Why build something that will be torn down by future leaders? It's such a waste of money and time. Let's build up our roads and bridges and schools. frick the wall.



I agree, invest in infrastructure.

If we're so worried about illegal immigration (i'm not in the slightest, I think they are a much bigger positive than negative) than lets put some of our troops down there since we're paying them anyway.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 12/15/16 at 11:17 pm to
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but are they Trump University levels of shady?


Almost assuredly worse than that. You really think the general public has ALL the dirt on the Clintons? The Bushes? Obama? Etc? Of course not. Not even close.
Posted by Texas Weazel
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Posted on 12/16/16 at 2:38 am to
I get that a wall is pretty useless (enforcing employment laws and restricting basic services is the only solution). But, he promised he would build a wall and Americans wouldn't pay for it.

So let's see it. A free wall courtesy of Mexico. Anything less should be considered a catastrophic failure.
Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted on 12/16/16 at 12:50 pm to
Of course we don't have all the dirt on the ruling class, but we also don't have all the dirt on Trump. He refused to release his tax returns. That is a red flag. His sons are running his business. That is a clear conflict of interest, when he can sway economic policy to make his company money. That is another red flag. Dude is clearly hiding a lot. If you can't see it, then you are choosing not to see it.
Posted by Masterag
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Posted on 12/16/16 at 1:02 pm to
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i'm not in the slightest, I think they are a much bigger positive than negative)


the more mexicans that come across the border, the more texas will resemble mexico. i have no problem with legal, regulated immigration. but the more foreign people who come, the less that group will assimilate. then one day you'll wake up and everything you knew, your culture, language, and little things you enjoy about living in texas are gone.

by our nature, humans group with people like us. color, language, values, food all separate us and bring us together. the more homogenous we are, the stronger we are as a country.

if i wanted to live in mexico, i'd move there. i don't want it moving here.
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 12/16/16 at 3:59 pm to
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the more mexicans that come across the border, the more texas will resemble mexico. i have no problem with legal, regulated immigration. but the more foreign people who come, the less that group will assimilate.

That's just a damn lie. Every ethnic group that has come to Texas in the 20th century has assimilated (or is in the process of assimilating) perfectly fine, just like the Italians, Irish and German did in New York and the east coast. Sure, the first generation of immigrants may never assimilate to your liking, but their offsprings assimilate quite well. The evidence is plentiful.
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then one day you'll wake up and everything you knew, your culture, language, and little things you enjoy about living in texas are gone.

Uh? Spanish, German, and French are part of our culture in Texas. In fact, Texas has always been greatly influenced by non-american cultures and has always gradually changed. Outside of pre-colonized Texas, I don't think Texas culture has stood still for very long.

Ever been to San Antonio de Béxar or El Paso Del Norte? Or how about New Braunfels or Schulenburg? The "little things" we enjoy about "Texas" aren't really Texas. The modern day Texas Cowboy outfit is a bastardized version of the Spanish Vaquero. Texas brisket was also created by adapting to the Czech/German techniques of smoking meats. Even the French left their smug and insulting influence in this state by giving us the state's public enemy #1; the wild boar (Thanks a lot France : ). They are a real pain in the arse...just like the french.
Posted by Texas Weazel
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 12/16/16 at 4:10 pm to
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Of course we don't have all the dirt on the ruling class, but we also don't have all the dirt on Trump. He refused to release his tax returns. That is a red flag. His sons are running his business. That is a clear conflict of interest, when he can sway economic policy to make his company money. That is another red flag. Dude is clearly hiding a lot. If you can't see it, then you are choosing not to see it.


I don't have a problem with his businesses being ran by his sons. Many presidents have had conflicts of interest with businesses they were part of while in office.

But what I do have a problem with is his kids sitting in meetings with foreign diplomats. That's a huge red flag. Contrary to the Bush family's belief, the U.S Presidency ain't a family run business.
Posted by Masterag
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Posted on 12/16/16 at 4:25 pm to
Pretty sure second generation Mexican immigrants and their children are about to outnumber multi generational Texans here pretty soon. And from my experience they don't really give a shite about being Americans, they want to be Mexicans but not live in Mexico.

Once they become a majority, what reason is there to assimilate?

True, Those other groups came and made texas what it is, but before them there were only natives here, so your analogy doesn't actually translate.
Posted by Mirthomatic
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Posted on 12/16/16 at 4:39 pm to
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That's just a damn lie. Every ethnic group that has come to Texas in the 20th century has assimilated (or is in the process of assimilating) perfectly fine, just like the Italians, Irish and German did in New York and the east coast. Sure, the first generation of immigrants may never assimilate to your liking, but their offsprings assimilate quite well. The evidence is plentiful.


It's not that simple. Italy, Ireland and Germany do not border Texas. In fact they are separated by an ocean. There is nothing analogous to the Mexican "Reconquista" movement.

I've got nothing against (legal) Mexican immigrants. In fact I'm married to one. But there's a not-uncommon sentiment among ethnic Hispanics that their first allegiance is to La Raza, to Mexico lindo y querido. It's one thing if you pull for the Mexican national futbol team against the Americans. It's quite another to oppose enforcement of US immigration law because it benefits those who share your heritage.

The problem is exacerbated by the identity politics that have been played by the Democrats for decades. The more hispanic immigrants assimilate, the less they view themselves as an "out" group dependent upon Democrat protection.
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 12/16/16 at 4:43 pm to
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Pretty sure second generation Mexican immigrants and their children are about to outnumber multi generational Texans here pretty soon. And from my experience they don't really give a shite about being Americans, they want to be Mexicans but not live in Mexico.

Once they become a majority, what reason is there to assimilate?

That's bullshite and you know it. San Antonio is a prime example of this not being true. It is an Hispanic majority city and one of the few cities in this state that scream "Texas". You know how many Hispanics in SA don't speak a lick of Spanish? Thousands of them. Many of them are Veterans, many of them are college educated, and many of them are proud Americans who go to church, volunteer, and are productive members of society.

Your assumption of immigrants is 99.9% dead on wrong. New York, Boston, Miami, and San Francisco immigration history have shown this.
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True, Those other groups came and made texas what it is, but before them there were only natives here, so your analogy doesn't actually translate.

Yes, but those ethnic groups didn't come all at once. It was one group after another mixing their influence into our great state. So the point still stands.
Posted by Texas Weazel
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 12/16/16 at 5:08 pm to
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It's not that simple. Italy, Ireland and Germany do not border Texas. In fact they are separated by an ocean. There is nothing analogous to the Mexican "Reconquista" movement.

"Reconquista" movement? What the hell is that ? You do know anyone who openly flaunts such dumbass movement falls into a minority movement?
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I've got nothing against (legal) Mexican immigrants. In fact I'm married to one. But there's a not-uncommon sentiment among ethnic Hispanics that their first allegiance is to La Raza, to Mexico lindo y querido.

Really? Because most 3rd and 4th generation Mexican Americans in South Texas don't give a frick about Dirtville. Assimilation eventually happens.
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It's quite another to oppose enforcement of US immigration law because it benefits those who share your heritage.

Politics is about being selfish. For example, I support the privatization of some of the government services. Partly because I love my money, but mostly because I have seen how ineffective the government can be.

My guess is that many immigrants (and not just Mexican immigrants) support lax immigration laws because they've seen up and close how hard it is to immigrate here and have benefited tremendously by coming here. It's an issue that hits close to home to every immigrant and child of an immigrant.

Having said that, not all immigrants support relaxed immigration laws.
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The problem is exacerbated by the identity politics that have been played by the Democrats for decades. The more hispanic immigrants assimilate, the less they view themselves as an "out" group dependent upon Democrat protection.

The funny thing is that most modern day immigrants would be considered conservative by US standards. Most Mexicans are against abortion due to their Catholic beliefs and some aren't very open to gay marriage. But alas, immigration issues hit close to home and gays/aborabortion, for the most part, don't.
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