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I never imagined this would be possible.

Posted on 1/14/16 at 8:08 pm
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 8:08 pm


But, after reading Olin Buchanan's article from the site that shall not be named (yeah, I was there checking news), I am even more pissed.

Glad we got Woodward.
Posted by Smoke Ring
Scenic Highway Crackhouse
Member since Dec 2010
4228 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:08 pm to
Byrne stepped on his pecker with the SEC.

Hyman should have never been hired, but he was, because our power brokers suck as much as they get it right (we need one mega donor instead of a gaggle of BMA's).

I think we got it right this time.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60097 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 10:40 pm to
quote:

(we need one mega donor instead of a gaggle of BMA's).


I'm convinced this is infinitely better. I asked a question in that previous megathread but it got buried in the bickering, having one voice and a clear chain of command to me makes it much easier to keep a program on a clear path, as opposed to answering to a whole bunch of donors who have different ideas and feelings on matters
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
21076 posts
Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:52 pm to
Good article by Olin, and good quotes from the new AD.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
Member since Mar 2013
20464 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 4:39 am to
Wtf is he wearing in that photo?
Posted by agalloch
Portland, OR
Member since Jun 2015
1647 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:21 am to
Good article. I'd mostly ignored the Hyman BS, but reading that shite pissed me off. I don't know how one gets to that position and shows such garbage leadership.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79896 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:33 am to
Waiting for Klarvin's rebuttal
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:38 am to
It was beyond a leadership issue. He was the primary leader of the A&M AD. It was a downright breach of his fiduciary duty.

What he did is similar to Muhtar Kent hanging out with Indra Nooyi drinking a Pepsi, or
Rex Tillerson hanging out with Bob Dudley at a corporate picnic, wearing a PB polo and posing for photo ops. Hyman should have been fired IMMEDIATELY!
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:05 pm to
Rebuttal to what?
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79896 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:07 pm to
Isn't Hyman a "great leader" according to your contacts?
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:14 pm to
No
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:18 pm to
In fact if I remember right, I said Hyman was well liked within the AD. And he was to my knowledge, he's a much friendlier guy than Byrne was. His credentials were respected as well.

Nobody believed he was doing a great job leading our AD though, and Sharp hated him. He was blamed by many for Sumlin's contract.
This post was edited on 1/15/16 at 12:20 pm
Posted by SafetySam
Gettysburg, PA
Member since Oct 2013
7170 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 12:27 pm to
So, it sounds like there's been an adjustment in the chain of command where Sumlin is concerned? I've been reading that he's now directly answerable to the AD. Is this info legit?
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79896 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:18 pm to
According to the OP article, Hyman would preface things with "this is how we did things at South Carolina" as if they were the pinnacle of athletics.

I don't see how that could possibly endear him to longtime employees.
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:48 pm to
Most boosters considered Hyman to be impersonal and distant. He did very little to create a buffer between boosters and coaches. That's both good and bad. The individual coaches were forced to work with boosters rather than a boss, but that also creates a better understanding between needs and money. He also didn't have coaches report directly to him (their was an AAD middle man) so he didn't have a very close relationship with them either. So all and all, he was considered quite aloof.

He was liked inside the department for many of the same reasons. He mostly left people alone to do their jobs instead of micro-managing (which was the complaint around Byrne). So it was very much a mixed bag, which it always is. I haven't read Olin's article. It's probably fair as Olin is a good dude.

But what tends to happen when someone leaves is we hear all the bad and none of the good. Hyman created a professional organization and brought in people like Jason Cook and allowed them the freedom to do their job. That came with the bad. That's just how things usually are.

And to Roger's comment about Sumlin's contract extension, other than being the face of the AD, Hyman really wasn't making any decisions concerning football
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 1:49 pm to
Sam I'm not sure on that one. I'll have to ask but it's interesting. I don't see how it would really work though given how things are today. I was told by a friend in the Husky AD that Woodward did in fact oversee football with complete autonomy on hires. I found that to be interesting.

It's hard to get the genie back in the bottle and my guess even if this is the case, it would just be on paper, at least until we hire a new football coach. I still believe this hire was simply an end around Sharp but we'll see.
Posted by SafetySam
Gettysburg, PA
Member since Oct 2013
7170 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 2:22 pm to
Thanks, and that "genie" thing makes sense.
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 8:57 pm to
quote:

Hyman really wasn't making any decisions concerning football



Who is making the decisions then? Some faceless puppet master?
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:35 pm to
pretty much. Sumlin reported to regent Jim Wilson when he started. I'm not sure the exact hierarchy today but it doesn't really matter. People who write big fat checks pretty much make the decisions on things that get them to write big fat checks. America yo
Posted by SafetySam
Gettysburg, PA
Member since Oct 2013
7170 posts
Posted on 1/15/16 at 11:48 pm to
Hard to try to tell people with lots of money how they should spend it, but one would hope for folks who value results more than they do influence.
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