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I come in peace to ask about Allen
Posted on 1/5/16 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 1/5/16 at 4:37 pm
I can understand Murray leaving because not enough playing time and baseball looks to be better for him, but why did Allen leave knowing he had the spot locked up? Did he and sumlin have a falling out and was shown the door? The A&M fans I work with don't know what happened and was hoping you guys could shed some light on the situation.
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Posted on 1/5/16 at 4:40 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
The rumor has always been that he was mad about how Sumlin handled the QB situation plus he knew Spav was out (and he was very close with Spav)
Posted on 1/5/16 at 4:40 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
He apparently loves Spav. I assume they told him Spav was heading out, so he decided to dip as well. Why did he want to stay in a Spav system? No fricking idea.
Regardless of what he told the coaches, Sumlin didn't handle his injury situation very well, so I'm sure that didn't help.
Regardless of what he told the coaches, Sumlin didn't handle his injury situation very well, so I'm sure that didn't help.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 4:46 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Makes more sense. Even though you commit to a program not a coach.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 4:47 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
When Spav "Mutually parted ways", Allen tweeted something like "-Soon we'll be back on top" or some shite like that. He was always a Spav fan. No place for those on this team.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 4:52 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
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Even though you commit to a program not a coach.
I don't think this is generally the case. Recruits commit for a whole host of reasons, and one big reason is the relationship they have with their coach(es).
Posted on 1/5/16 at 4:53 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
NOBODY KNOWS!
All there is are baseless rumors. Just like the Aleva/Miles situation, nobody will ever know.
All there is are baseless rumors. Just like the Aleva/Miles situation, nobody will ever know.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 4:55 pm to Mirthomatic
True. There is no way in hell I would commit to play under a coach who is known to hop from one place to the next (like Todd Graham...those girls at ASU doe 
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Posted on 1/5/16 at 4:57 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
Allen was hot and cold in games throughout the season. His inconsistency, combined with Murray's flashes of effectiveness, prevented him from clearly separating himself as the undisputed starter.
I thought the Western Carolina game definitively showed he was the better QB, and he then started the rest of the regular season.
Allen cryptically mentioned a lack of trust after he transferred. Maybe he didn't read the situation as he was the unquestioned starter from there on out. The staff might have thought, "A QB who threw 3 Pick 6s against Alabama wonders why we don't trust him?!"
If Allen had consistently performed at QB, Murray would have only seen garbage time duty, I bet. I kind of expected Murray to transfer. Allen had won it, but either he wasn't sure or felt wronged enough to not care.
I thought the Western Carolina game definitively showed he was the better QB, and he then started the rest of the regular season.
Allen cryptically mentioned a lack of trust after he transferred. Maybe he didn't read the situation as he was the unquestioned starter from there on out. The staff might have thought, "A QB who threw 3 Pick 6s against Alabama wonders why we don't trust him?!"
If Allen had consistently performed at QB, Murray would have only seen garbage time duty, I bet. I kind of expected Murray to transfer. Allen had won it, but either he wasn't sure or felt wronged enough to not care.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 5:00 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
It's because he loved Spav. Spav is the reason he came to A&M. He had no relationship with Sumlin - not during recruitment or thereafter. So, when he heard Spav was out, he was out too. It's not a mystery. It's not a case of we'll never know - we do know.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 5:12 pm to Cooter Davenport
I'll also add that he seemed to have a chip on his shoulder because he "didn't get the love" the Texas HS star QBs got at A&M. He said those words verbatim during the 2014 season. I think getting benched in favor of Kenny Hill and then Kyle Allen only furthered that belief in his mind.
That said, I don't blame him for leaving with the way the QB situation was mishandled. And since he was obviously married to spav,his being on the hot seat probably had an effect on his outlook as well.
That said, I don't blame him for leaving with the way the QB situation was mishandled. And since he was obviously married to spav,his being on the hot seat probably had an effect on his outlook as well.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 5:35 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
in my opinion, it was all Spav. sole reason...
Posted on 1/5/16 at 6:11 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
He was/is very close with Spavital I suspect a gay affair was taking place. Spavital getting fired was more than he could bear
Posted on 1/5/16 at 6:59 pm to Old Sarge
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He was/is very close with Spavital I suspect a gay affair was taking place.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 7:52 pm to TbirdSpur2010
I agree with you. Nothing solely entirely happens for one reason. The majority of the reason, by far, is his relationship with Spav. But he absolutely was disappointed that he never felt the love or became BMOC like JFF. He said so. I found myself feeling sorry for him actually. I know that'll get me hated on but I could empathize with the guy - he came here thinking he was going to be a star but was always held at arm's length by the fanbase and then benched in favor of a freshman turd who our idiotic fans cheered for as a way to basically boo him.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 8:00 pm to Cooter Davenport
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I agree with you. Nothing solely entirely happens for one reason. The majority of the reason, by far, is his relationship with Spav. But he absolutely was disappointed that he never felt the love or became BMOC like JFF. He said so. I found myself feeling sorry for him actually. I know that'll get me hated on but I could empathize with the guy - he came here thinking he was going to be a star but was always held at arm's length by the fanbase and then benched in favor of a freshman turd who our idiotic fans cheered for as a way to basically boo him.
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Posted on 1/5/16 at 8:10 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
I don't know why everyone is down voting this. It's hard to know the truth about our program right now with all the misinformation floating around. Heaven forbid someone wants to just know the actual facts
Posted on 1/5/16 at 8:15 pm to PikeBishop
I've never quite understood the obsession with the pick sixes. Allen threw the interceptions and then the entire offense allowed them to be returned for tds (and every single one of them could have been prevented by even passable offensive tackling). And once you're just talking about picks, does this headline surprise anyone?
True sophomore playing through injury, behind very shaky offensive line, and with zero run game support throws three interceptions against a Saban-coached defense that features one of the best front sevens of the past decade.
That performance was totally predictable. Before the game was even played, I said it was an awful match-up and that Alabama's merciless DL and lbs would pressure Allen all day and that he'd make a few mistakes.
If you take away the run game and still manage to put heavy pressure on the qb while only rushing 4-5, he's going to throw two or more picks just about every game. That's not an Allen fact that's just a football fact.
True sophomore playing through injury, behind very shaky offensive line, and with zero run game support throws three interceptions against a Saban-coached defense that features one of the best front sevens of the past decade.
That performance was totally predictable. Before the game was even played, I said it was an awful match-up and that Alabama's merciless DL and lbs would pressure Allen all day and that he'd make a few mistakes.
If you take away the run game and still manage to put heavy pressure on the qb while only rushing 4-5, he's going to throw two or more picks just about every game. That's not an Allen fact that's just a football fact.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 8:37 pm to Cooter Davenport
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I found myself feeling sorry for him actually. I know that'll get me hated on but I could empathize with the guy - he came here thinking he was going to be a star but was always held at arm's length by the fanbase and then benched in favor of a freshman turd who our idiotic fans cheered for as a way to basically boo him.
Yeah, he definitely got the short end of the stick, IMO.
Posted on 1/25/16 at 8:56 pm to Ash'sProstheticHand
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If you take away the run game and still manage to put heavy pressure on the qb while only rushing 4-5, he's going to throw two or more picks just about every game. That's not an Allen fact that's just a football fact.
I know I'm being a total douche by bumping my own post, but people are so quick to jump on a QB that I think it's validated. Maybe we can remember it next year when one of our QBs puts up a bad game against merciless pressure.
Yesterday, Denver and the Patriots faced off. The Denver pass rush, and particularly Von, utterly destroyed the Pats OL. They registered 20 QB hits on Brady (a freaking insane number) and sacked him 4 times. The result was 27/56 passes completed (48% completion percent), 310 yards (pretty lousy for 56 pass attempts and only registered 5.5ypa), 2 picks, and 1 TD. That's quite possibly the greatest QB of all time.
Football is a team sport. A QB's job is to throw the ball. His ability to do his job is GREATLY affected by his protection. When his protection is awful, his job becomes much harder and he'll usually have a shite game. So saying things like "Allen (Brady) wilted in the big games" is junk. Instead, it's more accurate to stay that they didn't have time to do their jobs correctly, and it showed
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