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Does Kennedy Keep His Job?

Posted on 3/13/15 at 1:11 pm
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50200 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 1:11 pm
Any rumors about Stansbury taking over?

I know Kennedy has a hell of a class coming in, but its not worth it in my mind. Someone like Stansbury would be able to keep it together. Someone like Mike White may not, but he'd be the ideal guy to return us to a good program. That is assuming players would ask out of their LOI and we grant it.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79974 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 1:19 pm to
As long as Johnson and Stansbury are retained, it shouldn't matter.

Kennedy won't be fired because we have an even bigger POS as an AD.
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 1:27 pm to
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Any rumors about Stansbury taking over?

Aww hell no! Why does everyone love this guy? It's not like he's some hot property. He was sitting home unemployed last year after being fired by one of the few SEC schools that you could argue has a worse hoops history than us. If this is what we plan, I'd honestly prefer keeping Kennedy with him as an assistant.
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That is assuming players would ask out of their LOI and we grant it.

Those guys signed early, all are local, and all have friends on the team. I can see if someone just hated a new coach but I think it's pretty likely they'd all stay. I don't think we'll hear anything any time soon on Kennedy. Even if the plan was to let him go, I think you do so after the NIT.
Posted by greenbastard
Parts Unkown
Member since Feb 2014
2740 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 1:38 pm to
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Aww hell no! Why does everyone love this guy? It's not like he's some hot property. He was sitting home unemployed last year after being fired by one of the few SEC schools that you could argue has a worse hoops history than us. If this is what we plan, I'd honestly prefer keeping Kennedy with him as an assistant.

My main concern with Stansbury is the shady recruiting he brings. He's very Scott Drew-like in a sense that he got some highly recruited guys to go to Mississippi State. Either a miracle worker or $.


My calm, educated side reasons that we should keep him and give him 1 more year in order to be fair to him and his family. He has shown some improvement and I'd like to see what he has in mind with the incoming class full of studs.


But my ghetto side says pop the motherf***er!
This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 1:42 pm
Posted by SafetySam
Gettysburg, PA
Member since Oct 2013
7174 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 1:49 pm to
The program is in desperate need of some moxy at the top.
Posted by Houston Summit
Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2012
1995 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 1:49 pm to
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Aww hell no! Why does everyone love this guy? It's not like he's some hot property.

I'm in the same boat. I think if we decide to make a move (which everyone except for ProjectPat knows we need to ), we need to do our homework and hire a coach with proven success and high potential. Someone like Brad Underwood would be a good candidate, IMO.

But this program needs a new direction, and I would like to see our next coach have more fire and passion on the sidelines. Players tend to feed off that emotion, and it just adds more excitement around the program in general
Posted by betweenthebara
nowhere
Member since May 2013
6183 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 1:52 pm to
It hasn't been worth it the last two years tbh, but no way they pull him until after next season. And that's what sucks, we will then give it to stansburys for the next 4-5 years of mediocrity. I want a legit coach. But nobody really cares about basketball.
This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 1:54 pm
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 2:23 pm to
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Why does everyone love this guy?


We are giving his shady tactics the credit for our recruiting boost.
Posted by WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
Member since Jan 2013
13840 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 2:31 pm to
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we should keep him and give him 1 more year in order to be fair to him and his family.


This is the problem with letting emotions get involved in a business decision. His family is his problem, not ours. He is here to win basketball games and he isn't doing it. These last few games make it apparent that House deserves that 1.5 million more than Kennedy this year.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50200 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 2:46 pm to
The problem with waiting until next year is that Kennedy could take a team with potential to make a deep run in March and turn them into 1 and done bubble, but still make the dance. We aren't firing a HC after we make the dance. Then regardless of what happens next Kennedy will likely be here another 2-3 years after that. I think we should have gotten rid of him last year. I think we should get rid of him this year. I was almost proven wrong (as were most of us) but that late season collapse was the norm and the mid season streak was the outlier.
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
10521 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 2:47 pm to
I'm going to host a crow buffet after next season when House and the incoming class wreck shop on the SEC.
Posted by WRTC
Member since Sep 2014
768 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 3:04 pm to
Nothing will happen with the #2 recruiting class coming in. They basically assure Kennedy another year.
Posted by WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
Member since Jan 2013
13840 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 3:09 pm to
Melvin Watkins could take House and that class to the Sweet 16. Kennedy might win the play in game with them.
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
10521 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 3:12 pm to
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Melvin Watkins could take House and that class to the Sweet 16. Kennedy might win the play in game with them.


Ok come on, you have to admit you're going too far with that one
Posted by WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
Member since Jan 2013
13840 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 3:14 pm to
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 3:19 pm to
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The problem with waiting until next year is that Kennedy could take a team with potential to make a deep run in March and turn them into 1 and done bubble

This is my biggest concern. No matter the coach next year, we're going to be good. I could coach that talent to the NCAAs and I don't know shite. And none of our 2015 class are one and done types so it's highly likely we'll see multiple tourney teams in a row.

Texas A&M is never going to fire a coach after taking us to the tourney. And we're going to drag our feet endlessly on any coach that takes us multiple years in a row. So next year's coach is going to be here for a while. We need to make sure it's a guy we want to be here for a while.

It's for this reason I'd let Kennedy go after this year. Maybe he "deserves" more time but that's entirely a red herring. I understand some may feel that way but we shouldn't be distracted by such a meaningless debate. The long-term interests of Texas A&M should be our first concern. You can combine new hire buzz with a great first year and it will excite the fanbase. More than anything, that's what we need.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55217 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 3:39 pm to
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I'm going to host a crow buffet after next season when House and the incoming class wreck shop on the SEC.


Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
10521 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 3:39 pm to
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It's for this reason I'd let Kennedy go after this year. Maybe he "deserves" more time but that's entirely a red herring. I understand some may feel that way but we shouldn't be distracted by such a meaningless debate. The long-term interests of Texas A&M should be our first concern. You can combine new hire buzz with a great first year and it will excite the fanbase. More than anything, that's what we need.


This is all assuming you find the right candidate to achieve those things. That's why I would have been fine with letting Kennedy go if we could have landed Bruce Pearl last year, but no dice.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50200 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 3:47 pm to
Where is the "deserves more time" arguement coming from. 4 years is more than enough when you took over an ok program. Its not like he took over an 0-16 program or a program coming off major penalities. He took over a program with good facilites and enough talent on the roster to at least be a bubble team year 1.
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 4:01 pm to
But that's just it, I don't think you can go wrong.

Assuming this class stays in tact, we will make the tourney next year and in all likelihood as a decent seed. With a new coach that doesn't have the fanbase against him, there will be excitement, whether he's even a good coach or not.

I'm going to say something slightly controversial but I think Texas A&M made BCG as much as he made us. He walked into a great situation. We desperately wanted a winner and he inherited a team with just the right talent. That talent responded to him and we started winning. The fans came out, money started pouring into the program and recruiting became much easier after that. He quite likely would have carried that early success and built a top tier program.

But he didn't have that same kind of success elsewhere because the stars weren't aligned there. And he was a good coach. But there really are very few elite coaches. Kennedy walked into a bad situation. I agree with you on that. He seems like a nice guy and I'd like for him to succeed. But he's not elite and he'll never ever win this fanbase over. The next guy can if we strike now.
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