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re: Did we do LSU a favor in the long term by stealing Chavis?

Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:20 am to
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:20 am to
It was bumped not long ago, there is also the one on the rant which had our ceiling at 9-3 I believe
Posted by Nguyening
SEMO
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:29 am to
I'm going to get a little off topic here, but this is frustrating.

Predicting 8-4 in year 5 with everything Sumlin's been given is an indictment in of itself. The fact he somehow lowered his own bar, met that expectation and got away with it shows the cultural issues Aggy has that keep us mired in mediocrity.

Richt got fired for going: 12,8,10,9 wins. He had 7 more double digit win seasons worth of goodwill built up, prior to that stretch.

Miles got fired for going 10,10,8,9. He had 5 more 10+ win seasons of goodwill, two natty appearances, and a ring.

Sumlin has been given a top 10 roster, a top tier (we thought) DC, the finest stadium in the country, and almost full autonomy with the program. He's given us 11,9,8,8,8. Furthermore, it's painfully obvious to the entire country that our players don't get better and our team that coasts purely on athletic talent has no backbone or desire to fight back when they get punched in the mouth.

What does Sumlin do? Offensive Guru? Nope. Master recruiter? I suppose, he's right on par with Fran and within range of A&M's historical average all while being given support/things to sell no other coach has ever had.
He squanders opportunity at an elite level all while being an absolute dick head to everyone.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55211 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:33 am to
The qb situation and last years collapse which mirrored 2014 made us all go low on our expectations. If Allen would have stayed we might have dreamed bigger in the preseason, whether right or wrong is irrelevant
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55211 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:44 am to
Bumped it for you
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55211 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:53 am to
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
11559 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 8:56 am to
Aranda's a sharp guy and he'll leave for a HC gig in the next couple of years. But in the meantime, they appear to have a top flight DC.

But Dave Aranda has nothing to do with Chavis. The reason we did LSU a favor is Chavis has simply not performed for us.
Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
2980 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:42 am to
quote:

I'm going to get a little off topic here, but this is frustrating.

Predicting 8-4 in year 5 with everything Sumlin's been given is an indictment in of itself. The fact he somehow lowered his own bar, met that expectation and got away with it shows the cultural issues Aggy has that keep us mired in mediocrity.

Richt got fired for going: 12,8,10,9 wins. He had 7 more double digit win seasons worth of goodwill built up, prior to that stretch.

Miles got fired for going 10,10,8,9. He had 5 more 10+ win seasons of goodwill, two natty appearances, and a ring.

Sumlin has been given a top 10 roster, a top tier (we thought) DC, the finest stadium in the country, and almost full autonomy with the program. He's given us 11,9,8,8,8. Furthermore, it's painfully obvious to the entire country that our players don't get better and our team that coasts purely on athletic talent has no backbone or desire to fight back when they get punched in the mouth.

What does Sumlin do? Offensive Guru? Nope. Master recruiter? I suppose, he's right on par with Fran and within range of A&M's historical average all while being given support/things to sell no other coach has ever had.
He squanders opportunity at an elite level all while being an absolute dick head to everyone.

Off topic but on point. Blue star to you, sir.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55211 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:45 am to
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Blue star to you, sir.



Posted by Texas Gentleman
Texas
Member since Sep 2015
2613 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 1:19 pm to
Same.

Screw it, the thread has already been derailed enough.

Chill98, you don't look back after a season and go, "well we finished above, below, or right at where I expected" and base your review of our season off that. You look at it week by week and see how you compare and stack up to teams and then how they stack up to the rest of their schedule. And when you do that, our season was poor, we had no business losing to two Mississippi schools that were sub .500 for the year. Period.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
18798 posts
Posted on 12/5/16 at 4:08 pm to
Chill98


More like Billy98


florida had twice as many starters out as we did, and they beat LSU at home! everybody plays a full schedule, and has attrition, you don't get to complain about that shite. Sumlin's had years to build up depth and the fact that they are either unprepared or whatever the excuse of the week is, ITS STILL SUMLIN'S FAULT.
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