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Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:33 am to
Posted by Ash'sProstheticHand
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:33 am to
ESPN is also forking over gobs of money for the SEC Network and we're the SEC school in the biggest market by far.

Fact is, espn has so many conflicts of interest that they can't even keep them all straight. The idea that care deeply about their connection with Texas (which was a cheap way for them to prevent the cash cow schools of the Big 12 from heading west and joining the Pac12 which is on Fox) is laughable.
Posted by Raid05
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
1104 posts
Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:33 am to
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When I look at his career, he was successful and highly regarded until he go here, so I don't think he suddenly sucked or the rest was all smoke. We are the outlier, so something was going on here that made him ineffective. Or maybe ineffective isn't the right word... maybe he wasn't really allowed to coach. He could well have been totally handcuffed by other coaches or tried to make changes only to have them rescinded. I tend to think he was a square peg in a round hole here.


Successful? He had 2 winning seasons in 5 years as HC of Wyoming, he then only lasted a year at Utah as OC because he wasn't getting along with the HC and Utah's offense in 2014 was worse than ours was this year.

Maybe he was hancuffed by what Spav was trying to do, but it seems like Mazzone didn't want to keep him either.
This post was edited on 2/4/16 at 11:41 am
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:34 am to
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Mazzone didn't want to keep him either.


Makes me like Mazzone already.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50118 posts
Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:35 am to
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Successful? He had 2 winning seasons in 5 years as HC of Wyoming, he then only lasted a year at Utah as OC because he wasn't getting along with the HC and Utah's offense in 2014 was worse than ours was this year.



He was good to great on offense at Mizzou.

He was good on offense at Wyoming. His defense sucked.

He wasn't so good at Utah.

He blew chunks here.

Sounds like we hired him on the downswing.
Posted by WRTC
Member since Sep 2014
768 posts
Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:49 am to
So, the bigger question.

WHO'S HIS REPLACMENT?

Posted by leoj
Member since Nov 2010
3106 posts
Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:50 am to
Idk, but we need a killer recruiter or two, we've lost all of them to other jobs it seems like.
Posted by Warrior Poet
Living Rent-Free in Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
7954 posts
Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:55 am to
Mazzone's son won't count towards that number
Posted by WRTC
Member since Sep 2014
768 posts
Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:58 am to
Nope. We have a spot open right now. It needs to be a killer on the recruiting trail, WITH TIES TO THE STATE OF TEXAS!!!
Posted by Warrior Poet
Living Rent-Free in Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:59 am to
I think that's exactly what Sumlin is going to do. When he first came in he brought too recruiters and his coordinators were supposed to be the X and O guys. He got away from that with Spav but this recruiting season has to have shown him the error here.

I think he has his eye on bringing in two recruiting heavy assistants.
Posted by Raid05
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
1104 posts
Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:00 pm to
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He was good on offense at Wyoming. His defense sucked.


I wouldn't consider any of Wyoming's offense good. They ranked 96,117,53,88 and 41 in total yards during his 5 years. PPG wasn't much better during his time there averaging 64th in the nation in 5 years.

He had some really good offenses for Mizzou for sure, but he hasn't been a part of a good offense since 2008.
This post was edited on 2/4/16 at 12:02 pm
Posted by leoj
Member since Nov 2010
3106 posts
Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:07 pm to
That would be great. Definitely need to get Texas locked down again. Seems like Mazzone and chavis can handle out of state, along with whatever other random connections we might have. But getting the connections with the Texas high schools has to be a priority so we don't keep losing people like Malik and jones
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:07 pm to
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He had some really good offenses for Mizzou for sure, but he hasn't been a part of a good offense since 2008.



And that could have just been Pinkel who also did it without DC.
Posted by Raid05
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
1104 posts
Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:09 pm to
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So, the bigger question.

WHO'S HIS REPLACEMENT?


I'm sure one of the first names would be Adrian Klemm.

I would hope Sumlin already has someone lined up.
Posted by WRTC
Member since Sep 2014
768 posts
Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:18 pm to
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Seems like Mazzone and chavis can handle out of state


Jeff Banks
Posted by WRTC
Member since Sep 2014
768 posts
Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:19 pm to
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Adrian Klemm


If we get him, we still need another. He'd be awesome for sure, but we need a guy with deep roots in Texas.
Posted by WRTC
Member since Sep 2014
768 posts
Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:20 pm to
Should have got Brick when he had the chance and kicked Hagen to the curb.
Posted by Warrior Poet
Living Rent-Free in Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
7954 posts
Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:21 pm to
I don't know why everyone is so high on him. He's terrible. LSU fans are 100% right about brick he caused a depth issue at dline for them.

We can do better
Posted by leoj
Member since Nov 2010
3106 posts
Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:22 pm to
Yes, thank you. Knew I was going blank on someone
Posted by WRTC
Member since Sep 2014
768 posts
Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

We can do better


Yea, but we kept hagen over him. And he cleaned up this year.
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
10521 posts
Posted on 2/4/16 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

It needs to be a killer on the recruiting trail, WITH TIES TO THE STATE OF TEXAS!!!


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