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re: Chip Kelly to A&M? Would we even want this guy?
Posted on 1/4/17 at 3:19 pm to prisonpunk
Posted on 1/4/17 at 3:19 pm to prisonpunk
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But even Chip's best teams couldn't beat physical SEC teams Auburn and LSU.
Only scrubs lost to 2010 Auburn and 2011 LSU
Posted on 1/4/17 at 3:21 pm to PhilipMarlowe
I'd love Gundy. He already has his Texas recruiting network set up, and what he's done at OSU (the 2nd fiddle program in freaking Oklahoma) is nothing short of amazing. He's going to finish this season ranked for the 7th time in 9 seasons, with 3 of those being top 10 finishes and 1 being a top 3 finish.
To put it in perspective, his last 9 years would arguably be the best 9 year stretch in A&M history.
To put it in perspective, his last 9 years would arguably be the best 9 year stretch in A&M history.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 3:22 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
That's simply not true. When you straight up tell the NCAA to frick off instead of at the very least pretending to work with them you get popped every single time.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 3:27 pm to Ash'sProstheticHand
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I'd love Gundy. He already has his Texas recruiting network set up, and what he's done at OSU (the 2nd fiddle program in freaking Oklahoma) is nothing short of amazing. He's going to finish this season ranked for the 7th time in 9 seasons, with 3 of those being top 10 finishes and 1 being a top 3 finish.
OK, but he's gotta get a damn haircut. It should be in the contract.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 3:28 pm to finestfirst79
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It should be in the contract.
You mean the guaranteed contract that removes all leverage from the employer?
Posted on 1/4/17 at 3:35 pm to Nguyening
quote:and lets not forget they were a what the frick play away from beating auburn in 2010 and the 2011 LSU team is like one of the greatest college football teams of all time. how people could seriously not want this to happen is just mind blowing
Only scrubs lost to 2010 Auburn and 2011 LSU
Posted on 1/4/17 at 3:44 pm to Masterag
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Chip Kelly to A&M?
Will take anything over the crap we have
Posted on 1/4/17 at 3:47 pm to Ash'sProstheticHand
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I'd love Gundy. He already has his Texas recruiting network set up, and what he's done at OSU (the 2nd fiddle program in freaking Oklahoma) is nothing short of amazing. He's going to finish this season ranked for the 7th time in 9 seasons, with 3 of those being top 10 finishes and 1 being a top 3 finish.
To put it in perspective, his last 9 years would arguably be the best 9 year stretch in A&M history.
Would be a smart hire imo. There are a lot of rumors that he isn't thrilled about being at Ok st. If/when Bert doesn't pan out, I see Arkansas making another attempt at him. Daughter attends Arkansas and was "apparently" interested before we hired Bert.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:03 pm to Ash'sProstheticHand
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He's going to finish this season ranked for the 7th time in 9 seasons, with 3 of those being top 10 finishes and 1 being a top 3 finish.
To put it in perspective, his last 9 years would arguably be the best 9 year stretch in A&M history.
It would be no worse than the 3rd best in A&M's history. I believe Sherrill-Slocum had a better 10 year stretch, and back in the Bible days
Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:09 pm to Nguyening
Yep. It depends on how you want to value it. Slocum had a great run at the end of the SWC, but never finished ranked higher than 6, and laid a lot of eggs in bowl games. Gundy had that 12-1 season which culminated in a W over an Andrew Luck-led Stanford team and a #3 finish. And he's performed much better in bowl games. However you want to rank him, that he's done as well as he has at OSU is freaking insane. Again, it's the 2nd tier school in a tiny state.
I also like his offense. He can turn a Fathead into a solid QB, but he's committed to the run game and strong line play too.
I also like his offense. He can turn a Fathead into a solid QB, but he's committed to the run game and strong line play too.
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 1/4/17 at 4:58 pm to Ash'sProstheticHand
Oh I agree, I'm all aboard the Gundy train and have been for some time. I think what he's been able to do at OKST is nothing short of remarkable.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 12:02 am to Nguyening
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'm all aboard the Gundy train
top 5 coach in the country...
1. not even 50 and still has the majority of his career in front of him
2. already coached at his alma mater so no need to worry about that
3. he's a man
4. dude has more passion in one eye than sumlin does in his body
5. competes for the big 12 every damn year with 3 star recruits
6. mullet game on fleek
Posted on 1/5/17 at 6:09 am to Nguyening
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Oh I agree, I'm all aboard the Gundy train and have been for some time. I think what he's been able to do at OKST is nothing short of remarkable.
Not sure I would want the Mullet. He has done more with less but not sure he has the chops to recruit at the level we need and he's also a flake. But.... he's a man!
My top obtainable pick would be Brent Venables. We need somebody that can coach defense. He can do that in spades and his resume in that regard is top 5 in the country. He knows Texas recruiting from his time at Oklahoma and he recruits to win. We can find a good OC for him without a problem (Kevin Wilson would have been my choice dammit) but a defensive head coach is what we need to win in the SEC, IMO.
This post was edited on 1/5/17 at 6:12 am
Posted on 1/5/17 at 7:14 am to AgSwag1
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He has done more with less but not sure he has the chops to recruit at the level we need
This is such a bullshite statement. How on fricking earth has he had the opportunity to prove that one way or the other? He's at Oklahoma State for chrissake! Do you realize how badly the deck is stacked against them? They're in a low population, low talent state where ALL the recruiting has to be done in Texas, against 56,792 *in-state* programs. His task is to convince kids to leave their home state, over offers from UT, A&M, SMU, TCU, Tech, Baylor, UH, and come to fricking Stillwater. And ALL of that is done in the shadow of their big brother, OU, one of the top 5 programs of all time by any measure, which due to being in Oklahoma as well, is doing to SAME THING that OSU is, only much easier due to who they are. Gundy's achievements in light of that are nothing short of amazing. That he has been able to get the kids there that he HAS is an awesome achievement and shows me the grit, tenacity and recruiting acumen to KILL in College Station.
Gundy is my #1, but I'd take Chip-to-my-lou Kelly ANY DAY over shite arse frickstick Kevin No-Dick Sumlin.
Venables? frick that guy. No way. He doesn't want to be a HC. He's had opportunities to be a HC and hasn't taken them because he's too pussy to make the jump. Dude likes the comfort of being a coordinator. I don't want some guy who is hesitant and afraid who finally takes the leap because his wife or somebody challenges his manhood. I want a guy who has a hunger to be a HC.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 8:19 am to AgSwag1
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a defensive head coach is what we need to win in the SEC, IMO.
Ahh yes, like Nick Saban and.....?
Personally, I don't think it really matters what side of the ball the HC came up on, it matters their personality type, attention to detail, what motivates them, and the culture/support system behind them.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:55 am to Nguyening
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Personally, I don't think it really matters what side of the ball the HC came up on,
Agree, but I think it's much easier to find an OC to pair with a defensive-minded HC than the other way around.
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it matters their personality type, attention to detail, what motivates them, and the culture/support system behind them.
Bingo
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:15 am to Cooter Davenport
I'm not sure if Venables has the charm or media savvy to pull off being a head guy in the spotlight at a top program.
He has an assistant working as a sideline leash.
He has an assistant working as a sideline leash.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 10:20 am to Cooter Davenport
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This is such a bull shite statement. How on fricking earth has he had the opportunity to prove that one way or the other? He's at Oklahoma State for chrissake! Do you realize how badly the deck is stacked against them? They're in a low population, low talent state where ALL the recruiting has to be done in Texas, against 56,792 *in-state* programs. His task is to convince kids to leave their home state, over offers from UT, A&M, SMU, TCU, Tech, Baylor, UH, and come to fricking Stillwater. And ALL of that is done in the shadow of their big brother, OU, one of the top 5 programs of all time by any measure, which due to being in Oklahoma as well, is doing to SAME THING that OSU is, only much easier due to who they are. Gundy's achievements in light of that are nothing short of amazing. That he has been able to get the kids there that he HAS is an awesome achievement and shows me the grit, tenacity and recruiting acumen to KILL in College Station.
This is my feeling. A&M is a consistent top 15ish level recruiting program no matter the coach, conference, or facilities. Sherrill, Slocum, Fran, Sherman, and Sumlin all recruited top 15 for the most part (save a small class here or there)...
Now that we've got more national exposure than ever, elite facilities, an SEC badge (along with top competition and exciting games week in week out) etc... I'm not worried about someone like Gundy getting the guys he needs to compete.
Posted on 1/5/17 at 2:41 pm to Cooter Davenport
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This is such a bullshite statement. How on fricking earth has he had the opportunity to prove that one way or the other?
Nice discussion skills you got there. Try that line on your wife and see how it goes. If I don't agree with you, it's not necessarily bullshite. You make my point for me with your excuses for Gundy. Gundy is unproven in many areas and recruiting is one of them. What makes you think that recruiting against Saban, Orgeron, Freeze, Muschamp, etc will be any easier than against Stoops?? I want an coach that can make us an elite team in the SEC West. Petersen, Venables, Franklin, Kelly yes. Gundy does not do that for me. That is not bullshite. Just an opinion. Gig em.
This post was edited on 1/5/17 at 2:44 pm
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