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Arky Really is over looking us

Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:22 am
Posted by AgBQ00
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:22 am
Just perusing some other team boards to see how they are viewing the upcoming season. The most interesting take on the season I found was on the Arky board. They are all chalking us up as an auto "W". I find that amazing. I think it'll be a hard fought game, but I don't see them beating us this year. But as they say that is why we play the games.
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:33 am to


Someone said they lost 4 starters to the NFL on defense. That's a big number of high caliber guys. With our offense improving (and I think our offense will be much better). I don't see how they can keep up with what we put on the scoreboard.

Posted by Howdyagssec
va beach
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:39 am to
They lost a lot from their front 7 (Flowers, Speight, Philon) and we are focused on running more physically. Their biggest weapon on offense is the run and I believe we will be improved physically there as well. I just don't see how they're going to pan out as the trendy world beaters some have them predicted to be. And I definitely think we are being overlooked as a potential contender in the west. Fine by me! Bring on Saturdays... I'm so ready
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 10:44 am
Posted by Howdyagssec
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 10:40 am to
You beat me to it, Sarge!
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 10:41 am
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:35 am to
I understand why they are confident. They are the sexy pick this year because of how they finished. And we're viewed as dogshit for some reason. It seems the immaturity of our talent on the defensive front has led many to believe there isn't talent which isn't at all the case.

Arkansas is playing extremely physical football and had an elite rush defense last year. They were amazing against teams that couldn't pass (Bama early on, Ole Miss with bad Bo, LSU, tu). But they struggled all year defending the passing teams

That game will come down to whether or not we can stop their running game. If we can at even a modest rate, I think we'll be fine. If not, it'll probably be a shootout like last year.
Posted by Nguyening
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:40 am to
I was just looking at that this morning, but got too busy at work to post this thread lol...

The OP says he thinks our offense and defense improve, but our team doesn't. Then gave us a worse record than last year lol.

Put me down as thinking we boat race Arkansas this year.
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:43 am to




They finished strong because of their defense against the running game. Ole Miss had been reduced to a one dimensional offense and LSU was almost the same. Then cue the horns who couldn't pass the ball to save their lives..........


Posted by Nguyening
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 11:47 am to
Running defense and a physical offense that really takes advantage of teams being worn down at the end of the year.

Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

I understand why they are confident. They are the sexy pick this year because of how they finished. And we're viewed as dogshit for some reason.


Which means get ready for the best season since 2012 boys! We always do our best when expectations are low.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 12:39 pm to
On some level I can't blame them. From the end of our first drive until the last several minutes they kicked our arse last year, out scoring us 28-7 and that was with TWO touchdowns called back on penalties that had nothing to do with the play. Even our comeback was aided by their DB falling down on Pope's long TD catch and Bielema playing for a long FG.

If we play out those final ten minutes or so 100 times, they win 97-98 of them. It took a PERFECT sequence of events to just get to OT.

They were the better team and lost. They outplayed us for about 45-50 minutes just as much do as we outplayed USC and we are all chalking USC up to a sure win this year.

I've never seen a team win in a game where they were THAT physically overmatched.
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 12:45 pm to
I don't disagree with any of that. We were wearing the Emperors new clothes at that point.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 12:51 pm to
good

I hope their players do the same.
Posted by therick711
South
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 12:52 pm to
Speaking of something Arkansas related to overlook.

LINK

I want to warn you in advance that there are some things you can't unsee. This image of Bert on ESPN fits that bill. This link is not for squeamish or faint of heart. #killitwithfire
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 12:58 pm
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

On some level I can't blame them. From the end of our first drive until the last several minutes they kicked our arse last year, out scoring us 28-7 and that was with TWO touchdowns called back on penalties that had nothing to do with the play. Even our comeback was aided by their DB falling down on Pope's long TD catch and Bielema playing for a long FG.

If we play out those final ten minutes or so 100 times, they win 97-98 of them. It took a PERFECT sequence of events to just get to OT.

They were the better team and lost. They outplayed us for about 45-50 minutes just as much do as we outplayed USC and we are all chalking USC up to a sure win this year.


Oh please

They had to have just as much go right for them to get up on us like that.

Kenny was missing wide the hell open WRs and dudes were dropping balls all day. There were at least 2 or 3 easy TDs and many more big plays lost due sloppy execution. They even needed the A&M special teams to have a massive brain fart to get a fake punt TD.

Neither team played D worth a shite that day and it came down to which offense made the most mistakes. At the end of the day they made more.

BB and Arky haven't shown any real ability to stop our O yet. The only thing that has kept them in games is A&M mental mistakes and our piss poor defense.
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 1:00 pm
Posted by Old Sarge
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 1:08 pm to
What's being overlooked is that our Rant relationship with Arky has been pretty civil despite 3-0, I think 4-0 will push us into new hostile territory with the former SWC team
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 1:10 pm to
I mean, you can't really take inherent player deficiencies and play the what if game. Yeah, if Kenny Hill could throw downfield for shite or if our linebackers didn't blow dick in run support we might have fared better. Problem is those things were true all season long, it's just who we were.

Meanwhile, Arkansas had two ACTUAL TDs taken off the board. Their DB just fell down on one freak play. It's just not the same thing.

Nobody can watch that game with any objectivity and say we were the better team. Arkansas winning 42-21 was more likely than what actually happened.
Posted by AgBQ00
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 1:19 pm to
I think that game was the start of the unraveling last year. Arky played just well enough to almost win. We played just well enough to squeak out a win. We both played poorly enough to lose it. I just don't see us having the same issues this year that we had last year. They are replacing a lot on their d line. Could they be better? Sure, I don't know enough about their depth chart to argue one way or the other. But, as we found out after 2012 just a few seniors in leadership roles make a huge difference to a defense.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 1:29 pm to
I thought they dominated us last year, I can't believe we won that game, and they were a better team. I don't see why they wouldn't expect to beat us if I were them, and if Chavis doesn't work a little bit of magic, I expect them too. They are far and away the worst matchup for us.
Posted by Dr RC
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Member since Aug 2011
58028 posts
Posted on 7/24/15 at 1:34 pm to
quote:

I mean, you can't really take inherent player deficiencies and play the what if game. Yeah, if Kenny Hill could throw downfield for shite or if our linebackers didn't blow dick in run support we might have fared better. Problem is those things were true all season long, it's just who we were.

Meanwhile, Arkansas had two ACTUAL TDs taken off the board. Their DB just fell down on one freak play. It's just not the same thing.



You mean like how Arky consistently found ways to blow close games all year?

You can't say "you can't play the what if game" when that's exactly what you are doing.

What if they didn't commit penalties or have a player fall on D is exactly the same as what if we didn't drop/overthrow sure TDs or what if a DB didn't bite on a play action. They are both lost/gained scores due to players screwing up.

Again, neither team had any real success stopping the other for the bulk of the day. It was a game of who screwed up the least wins and fortunately we screwed up the least.
This post was edited on 7/24/15 at 1:52 pm
Posted by Nguyening
SEMO
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/24/15 at 2:10 pm to
You can just as easily point out Ed pope tripping with no one between him and the end zone, I believe we didn't get a TD that series. They also had a fake punt for a TD from their side of the field.

We are a bad matchup for them honestly, they aren't built to play catch up. Arkansas is the exact type of team were built to run out of the building.

They also couldn't run the ball when it really mattered. They didn't pick up a first down in OT, and we'll be substantially deeper in the front 7 this year.

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