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Posted on 12/20/14 at 1:20 am
Posted on 12/20/14 at 1:20 am
Starting this thread in an attempt to have a little bit of melt free discussion about the past 24 hours, the DC/OL/WR coaching search, and where we go from here.
What DC hire gets this ship pointed back in the right direction? What happened to the Wyatt hire?
What DC hire gets this ship pointed back in the right direction? What happened to the Wyatt hire?
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Posted on 12/20/14 at 1:27 am to WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
To me O line and WR need to be can't miss. Wyatt got an interview but maybe Sumlin found better. Jeez of all the hires he will nail WR coach.
For oline I want to copy the sips and steal someone good.
For oline I want to copy the sips and steal someone good.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 1:36 am to WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
A dc that has experience coaching the zone read and teaching LBs how to fill gaps would be a pretty damn good start.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 1:55 am to WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
I wouldn't believe much of what is being posted by the 9.95 sites. I know there have been a few entirely fictitious stories told. But I couldn't begin to tell you where we are now as ranks were closed about a week ago. Was shocked to learn one person who was cut off because it takes brass ones to tell him to just wait it out.
In the mean time, each of the paysites are chasing their own tails. They see the competitor pump a guy and they dig in on him. And the agents are more than happy to oblige by floating their guy's name. And so all of them post ridiculous names like Gibbs and fans run with it because they assume these guys know something (they didn't in that case at least)
And because the paysites are in the dark, people think nothing is happening. And in that absence of info, they are quick to believe ludicrous stories.
There are few reasons to be this tight and I wouldn't speculate on them on a message board. But I'm pretty certain it isn't because an 11th hour candidate came to the front because an unprecedented cone of silence went up well before that.
In the mean time, each of the paysites are chasing their own tails. They see the competitor pump a guy and they dig in on him. And the agents are more than happy to oblige by floating their guy's name. And so all of them post ridiculous names like Gibbs and fans run with it because they assume these guys know something (they didn't in that case at least)
And because the paysites are in the dark, people think nothing is happening. And in that absence of info, they are quick to believe ludicrous stories.
There are few reasons to be this tight and I wouldn't speculate on them on a message board. But I'm pretty certain it isn't because an 11th hour candidate came to the front because an unprecedented cone of silence went up well before that.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 2:13 am to tmc94
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Was shocked to learn one person who was cut off because it takes brass ones to tell him to just wait it out.
Booster or 9.95 writer?
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In the mean time, each of the paysites are chasing their own tails. They see the competitor pump a guy and they dig in on him. And the agents are more than happy to oblige by floating their guy's name. And so all of them post ridiculous names like Gibbs and fans run with it because they assume these guys know something (they didn't in that case at least)
I find it funny that all of these names being floated by the pay sites and fans just lead to a fan fury and ultimately piss off everyone involved and just make the situation worse.
I know it's hard to be patient though, but it's necessary so we don't end up making a hire like Sherman,that turns into a failure, after three days.
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And because the paysites are in the dark, people think nothing is happening. And in that absence of info, they are quick to believe ludicrous stories.
The paysites themselves are the problem. They are forced to make their subscribers think they know something because if they don't people will switch services. In this case they really don't have any info and are just going the Chip Brown route and throwing shite against the wall.
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There are few reasons to be this tight and I wouldn't speculate on them on a message board.
I can only think of a couple but the more I think about it the less I believe my own theories.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:03 am to WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
I said it in another thread and I'll say it here......I ain't gonna get all worked up over something I have absolutely no control over. When all the facts come to light and it's more than people THINKING AND SPECULATING on what is really happening then maybe I'll get upset. Until then imma just toll with it and prepare myself for one more year. I've said from the beginning that we were gonna need 5 to 7 years to be competitive and as long as we hit that time line I'm good.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:10 am to tmc94
All I can say is that I'm a happier guy since I'm no longer getting stars. I realized I was paying for speculation, or something that was maybe a scoop of two hours.
I don't need that grief.
Whatever happens, I will support the team. I was disappointed yesterday, but I got 99 other problems but a recruit ain't one. Hit me.
I don't need that grief.
Whatever happens, I will support the team. I was disappointed yesterday, but I got 99 other problems but a recruit ain't one. Hit me.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 8:20 am to cardboardboxer
Supposedly Levine reached out to Sumlin to come on staff, I assume it would be as WR coach
I loved the Mangino idea as OL/OC
No idea what to think on DC anymore. I was fine with the Durkin/Mattison combo if that's our backup
I loved the Mangino idea as OL/OC
No idea what to think on DC anymore. I was fine with the Durkin/Mattison combo if that's our backup
Posted on 12/20/14 at 9:11 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Supposedly Levine reached out to Sumlin to come on staff, I assume it would be as WR coach
I would like that, he could also coach special teams.
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I loved the Mangino idea as OL/OC
Me too. But I am happy with anyone as long as this hire isn't like Levine (aka part of a former staff of his). I want some hot shot from across the country or something.
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No idea what to think on DC anymore.
I have decided whoever it is to give them a chance. At the end of the day at that position we need good coaching more than flash.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 9:20 am to WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
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DC/OL/WR coaching search
Can you include OC in that as well?
Thanks in advance.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 9:31 am to tmc94
The thing I'm wondering is if we're completely finished dropping assistant coaches.
I don't doubt for one second that the reason this is taking so long is that Sumlin is trying to keep as many of his coordinators as possible for recruiting purposes.
I'm fine with losing every defensive position coach if that means a massive upgrade in DC, especially if we finally get one that is going to coach a position as well like every other quality DC does.
I would even say that Larry Jackson's job should be in question if our upperclassmen with 3 years in the program are getting abused by the likes of Louisiana-Monroe.
I don't doubt for one second that the reason this is taking so long is that Sumlin is trying to keep as many of his coordinators as possible for recruiting purposes.
I'm fine with losing every defensive position coach if that means a massive upgrade in DC, especially if we finally get one that is going to coach a position as well like every other quality DC does.
I would even say that Larry Jackson's job should be in question if our upperclassmen with 3 years in the program are getting abused by the likes of Louisiana-Monroe.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 9:35 am to CGSC Lobotomy
I would think that is all the shuffling for the O but who knows.
Good point on Larry Jackson. From the start he has been a good story, but we look outmanded despite not being out recruited.
Good point on Larry Jackson. From the start he has been a good story, but we look outmanded despite not being out recruited.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 9:58 am to Agforlife
agreed. also I wouldn't think that Sumlin views assistants especially on D as safe
Posted on 12/20/14 at 10:52 am to WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
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Booster or 9.95 writer?
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I find it funny that all of these names being floated by the pay sites and fans just lead to a fan fury and ultimately piss off everyone involved and just make the situation worse.
yep. And I think this was a strategic mistake on Sumlin's part. He's usually good about controlling the message and he (well normally his staff) strategically leak info to the paysites. It prepares people for what is going to happen and manages expectations.
When that stops happening, like you say, shite is thrown against the wall and it becomes difficult to manage the mob. I think this is part of why Luicci is so upset - he's been cut out and it's his vocation. And whatever happens, this is going to hit him in the pocketbook.
Right now the paysites are counterproductive. And Sumlin has to see this and yet he has done nothing about it. Whatever is going on has to be super delicate.
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I can only think of a couple but the more I think about it the less I believe my own theories.
Exactly. I hesitate to even voice them because of this.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 10:54 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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I loved the Mangino idea as OL/OC
To be clear, that was just me making shite up. I have absolutely nothing to base that on but he was just the first name that popped in my head. Took up all the space and I couldn't think of another
Honestly a big problem here is we don't know many OL coaches. Can anyone name 4 that have never worked at A&M? Mangino. Wickline. Klemm. I'm done.
Speculation naturally moves to people we've heard of. Chances are pretty good our OL coach next year is not going to be such a person.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 10:54 am to tmc94
Actually, I'm happy to see paysites losing business over this.
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Posted on 12/20/14 at 10:58 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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The thing I'm wondering is if we're completely finished dropping assistant coaches.
This could definitely be a reason for a cone of silence. IMO every single coach needs to be reviewed. And yeah, Larry Jackson included.
Sumlin has been willing to make those tough decisions from demoting McKinney after a year to firing BJ. I don't think he's in the frame of mind at the moment to be protectionist. At least he shouldn't be. He's not going to get an opportunity to re-mold his staff again
Posted on 12/20/14 at 11:00 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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Actually, I'm happy to see paysites losing business over this.
Just a micro version of Franchione's VIP newsletter
Agreed. I don't really care about them. But the fallout to get there may be toxic
Posted on 12/20/14 at 1:37 pm to tmc94
Yeah I figured so, thinking back on it though I loved the OU offense when they had Heupel, Quentin Griffin, etc.
Posted on 12/20/14 at 1:42 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
The 2000 OU team had an elite defense too.
The only team allowing fewer points than them in a BCS title game was 2011 Alabama
The only team allowing fewer points than them in a BCS title game was 2011 Alabama
This post was edited on 12/20/14 at 1:43 pm
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