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What is up with the defeatist attitude?
Posted on 9/19/16 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 9/19/16 at 4:40 pm
Outside of our coaching deficiency, this is a very good matchup for us.
Even as bad as we have looked at times, we are more talented than UF and they have an even worse offense than us with much less talent at the skill positions. I believe the defenses are pretty similar.
The play calling has been frustrating at times offensively, but I don't think anything has really happened this season that drastically changes the outlook on this game.
It is a game Tennessee can easily win playing poorly and should win comfortably if they play well.
This is not a good opponent, do not let Florida's play against 3 teams worse than anyone we've played change your mind.
I believe Tennessee wins 24-13 or so. Don't think the outcome will really be in doubt in the 4th quarter.
Even as bad as we have looked at times, we are more talented than UF and they have an even worse offense than us with much less talent at the skill positions. I believe the defenses are pretty similar.
The play calling has been frustrating at times offensively, but I don't think anything has really happened this season that drastically changes the outlook on this game.
It is a game Tennessee can easily win playing poorly and should win comfortably if they play well.
This is not a good opponent, do not let Florida's play against 3 teams worse than anyone we've played change your mind.
I believe Tennessee wins 24-13 or so. Don't think the outcome will really be in doubt in the 4th quarter.
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Posted on 9/19/16 at 4:48 pm to volfan30
You're supposed to be the Negavol around here 
Posted on 9/19/16 at 4:52 pm to volfan30
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volfan30
I agree with you 100 percent. Even if this weren't a good match-up, I despise the pussy arse defeatism that's been on display. We can be rational or even unenthusiastic about what we've seen so far without the bullshite that's been going on lately.
But really, our defense is still very good. We can survive without Cam. Our DL and pass rush can give UF hell. Our OL is struggling but we can still find ways to score. And we can win if this team even plays to half of its potential.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 4:53 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Florida is pretty bad. That is why I'm struggling to understand this pessimism.
They've played probably the two worst FBS programs in the nation and Kentucky, who gave up 42 to New Mexico State on Saturday.
An above average performance and the VOLS win by multiple scores.
They've played probably the two worst FBS programs in the nation and Kentucky, who gave up 42 to New Mexico State on Saturday.
An above average performance and the VOLS win by multiple scores.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 4:56 pm to volfan30
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volfan30
Are you on FL98? If so, message me.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 4:59 pm to volfan30
Everyone is upset we didn't blowout Ohio and App State.
Vols are winning this one comfortably.
Vols are winning this one comfortably.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 5:03 pm to volfan30
Lol this is great.
Who do you bet with? How's the action so far?
Who do you bet with? How's the action so far?
Posted on 9/19/16 at 5:13 pm to Robert Goulet
Action is all on Florida just as I suspected (and hoped) but it has moved a little more than I had hoped.
Will be interesting to follow it the rest of the week.
First 3 VOLS games (App State +20.5, VOLS -11 and Ohio +27) have been easy easy wins. I got VOLS -6.5 today and feel very good about it.
Will be interesting to follow it the rest of the week.
First 3 VOLS games (App State +20.5, VOLS -11 and Ohio +27) have been easy easy wins. I got VOLS -6.5 today and feel very good about it.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 5:15 pm to Vols&Shaft83
Not on FL98 anymore.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 5:21 pm to volfan30
Well this is a breath of fresh air.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 5:27 pm to volfan30
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Will be interesting to follow it the rest of the week.
I think so too. Please update if you think of it.
I need to learn more about sports betting because it is fascinating as frick.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 5:34 pm to Robert Goulet
Will do. The bet threads on the MSB are good reads every week. User ChemE especially is a good guy to follow/tail in those threads if you are trying to learn more.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 5:49 pm to Robert Goulet
Some FEI stats that support VF30's assessment:
FEI ranks us at #16 and UF at #60.
#16 Vols have went 3-0 against an Above Average Team (VT), an Average Team (App St), and one Below Average Team (Ohio).
#60 Gators have gone 3-0 against 3 Awful teams. Awful is defined by FEI as ranked 116 or worse.
FEI's categories are as follows:
E for Elite (ranked 1-5), VG for Very Good (ranked 6-15), G for Good (ranked 16-30), AA for Above Average (ranked 31-50), Av for Average (ranked 51-70), BA for Below Average (ranked 71-90), B for Bad (ranked 91-105), VB for Very Bad (ranked 106-115), and Aw for Awful (ranked 116 or worse).
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We are seriously underestimating how terrible UF's competition has been while also underestimating the level of our opponents. Right now, VT has the #2 overall defense (their offense is still meh but Bud Foster is legit even when he has less talent to work with). Kentucky is at #116 using FEI.
An interesting note is that Georgia is ranked 14 using FEI *but* for some reason only 2 games register for them. So I'm not sure what's up there and/or if they simply overlooked inputting their info. I personally don't think UGA is that good at the moment.
FEI ranks us at #16 and UF at #60.
#16 Vols have went 3-0 against an Above Average Team (VT), an Average Team (App St), and one Below Average Team (Ohio).
#60 Gators have gone 3-0 against 3 Awful teams. Awful is defined by FEI as ranked 116 or worse.
FEI's categories are as follows:
E for Elite (ranked 1-5), VG for Very Good (ranked 6-15), G for Good (ranked 16-30), AA for Above Average (ranked 31-50), Av for Average (ranked 51-70), BA for Below Average (ranked 71-90), B for Bad (ranked 91-105), VB for Very Bad (ranked 106-115), and Aw for Awful (ranked 116 or worse).
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We are seriously underestimating how terrible UF's competition has been while also underestimating the level of our opponents. Right now, VT has the #2 overall defense (their offense is still meh but Bud Foster is legit even when he has less talent to work with). Kentucky is at #116 using FEI.
An interesting note is that Georgia is ranked 14 using FEI *but* for some reason only 2 games register for them. So I'm not sure what's up there and/or if they simply overlooked inputting their info. I personally don't think UGA is that good at the moment.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 6:00 pm to volfan30
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volfan30
What about 3andC?
Posted on 9/19/16 at 6:06 pm to volfan30
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The bet threads on the MSB are good reads every week. User ChemE especially is a good guy to follow/tail in those threads if you are trying to learn more.
Thanks. I never venture outside of the rant. I will check it out.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 6:09 pm to Prof
That's interesting stuff. I am not completely sold on quants but recognize that they can tell a great deal sometimes.
This game is really big for this team. I sure hope they look better.
I agree that UGA hasn't impressed, but they have some talent. I would love to see UT look sharp this week.
This game is really big for this team. I sure hope they look better.
I agree that UGA hasn't impressed, but they have some talent. I would love to see UT look sharp this week.
This post was edited on 9/19/16 at 6:28 pm
Posted on 9/19/16 at 6:10 pm to volfan30
Good thread, but not everything is as it seems right now.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 6:31 pm to Robert Goulet
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That's interesting stuff. I am not completely sold on quants but recognize that they can tell a great deal sometimes. I was hoping some could get an idea for my posting the last couple days...not sure how everyone is feeling for the game. This game is really big for this team. I agree that UGA hasn't impressed, but they have some talent. I would love to see UT look sharp this week.
Yeah, I'm not 100 percent a believer in quants when it comes to CFB (too many variables + college kids) but I do like the perspective stats can provide. We should be able to handle this game even with the defensive losses and the poor OL/offense in general. But we still have to buckle down and do it.
I think if we can win this game it will boost confidence to a level where this team will be able to handle teams statistically better than them. Florida might not admit it but beating us last year was what gave them confidence and propelled them to over-perform in later games (until Grier got suspended).
So much about CFB is a mental thing which is why stats can only go so far but a victory against UF would be magic, imo.
Posted on 9/19/16 at 6:51 pm to Prof
Beat Florida and everything changes
Posted on 9/19/16 at 7:35 pm to TRUERockyTop
Beat Florida and I suddenly feel confident about going into the Bama game undefeated.
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