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The Fault In Our Stars?

Posted on 9/27/16 at 7:36 am
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
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Posted on 9/27/16 at 7:36 am
Back in the ‘90’s Coach Fulmer definitely benefited from disarray at UGA and Bammer.


Could the stars be similarly aligning again? Finebaum said that Coach Saben had considered retiring after last year. If he retires or leaves Bammer the effect is the same in the short term. UF may have a period of adjustment; Coach Mac may be transitional and the same thing may be going on at UGA. Coach Smart doesn’t seem to have them very well in hand. Now LSU has leapt over a precipice.

Tennessee may be sitting right pretty in the SEC for a while.

What do ya’ll think?



UT '81


This post was edited on 9/27/16 at 7:37 am
Posted by Supravol22
Member since Jan 2011
14408 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:07 am to
Would be very ironic for sure after all the shite they've given us
Posted by Robert Goulet
Member since Jan 2013
9999 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 2:21 pm to
I do not think Butch Jones is the long-term answer here. He has done a pretty good job, but he doesn't have what it takes to lead the program into "Decade of Dominance: Part II".
Posted by DoUrden
UnderDark
Member since Oct 2011
25965 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 2:29 pm to
This is why if Peyton has any desire to coach I wish he would take a job and get some experience under his belt
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

I do not think Butch Jones is the long-term answer here. He has done a pretty good job, but he doesn't have what it takes to lead the program into "Decade of Dominance: Part II".


You could be right.

Thing is that these other programs are entering periods of instability and turn over.

Coach Jones has now been on The Hill for 4 years. Someone said he is a good CEO type coach. That alone may take us a ways in the next few years.

Walt

UT '81
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39963 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 5:23 pm to
quote:

What do ya’ll think?



This thing ebs and flows. Maybe it's UT's time finally but someone else will step up to the plate soon enough.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58103 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:11 pm to
Yep. A program like UGA isn't gonna stay down (if this even qualifies as that) for long

Slumps like we went through or Bama went through just aren't very likely to happen to a program of this caliber
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:46 pm to
quote:

Slumps like we went through or Bama went through just aren't very likely to happen to a program of this caliber


Are you saying that UGA is better caliber than Bammer and UT?

Walt

UT '81
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:48 pm to
quote:

This thing ebs and flows. Maybe it's UT's time finally but someone else will step up to the plate soon enough.


Your glass is half empty.

That is true but there may be a window like Coach Fulmer found in '98.

Walt

UT '81

Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 9:48 pm to
quote:

This thing ebs and flows. Maybe it's UT's time finally but someone else will step up to the plate soon enough.


Your glass is half empty.

That is true but there may be a window like Coach Fulmer found in '98.

Walt

UT '81

Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39963 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 10:20 pm to
quote:

Your glass is half empty.


If that's how you want to see it then it's whatever. We're where UT was when Butch took over. Not a ton of upperclassmen leadership and very little senior leadership. We'll be fine. Kirby has been killing it on the recruiting trail.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39963 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 10:25 pm to
quote:

Are you saying that UGA is better caliber than Bammer
No

quote:

Are you saying that UGA is better caliber than UT?



Maybe, but our AD who I hate has definitely been better than Hamilton has. He's a large reason why you folks slumped so long.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
69890 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 11:22 pm to
quote:

We're where UT was when Butch took over.


Not even close to that bad. You may have some gaps on your squad, but you have a much MUCH better roster to work with than we did 4 years ago.
Posted by Serraneaux
South of 30a
Member since Mar 2014
19591 posts
Posted on 9/27/16 at 11:48 pm to
Let me know when UGA is starting 3 Walkons, a career backup OL at DT in fall camp, a converted WR in fall camp at CB with 6 other three stars vs a team like Florida. That's what Dooley was left with his first year. I remember freakibg out because a sophomore two star DT named Montori Highes was suspended for the Florida game causing a 5th string walkon TE who was a frost to start vs Florida. This UGA roster is loaded compared to what Dooley and Butch took over.
This post was edited on 9/27/16 at 11:51 pm
Posted by Piscinin
the hills
Member since Nov 2015
3561 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 12:34 am to
quote:

We're where UT was when Butch took over




lol are you kidding me with this?
Posted by Kraven Moorehed
Franklin
Member since Dec 2015
2325 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 1:30 am to
Do other fanbases not know how bad it really was? Our DBs ran 4.7s at their pro day. They might have been struggling to break 5 flat at the combine. He had Worley at QB and was bad at the skill positions. And that front seven was terrible. Not one person was drafted the last few years.

The roster when Butch got here was bottom three in the SEC. Maybe, the worst.
This post was edited on 9/28/16 at 1:32 am
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39963 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:24 am to
quote:

Let me know when UGA is starting 3 Walkons,


Got one in the secondary and it shows.

quote:

a career backup OL at DT in fall camp


Got the opposite, we have a DL that never even saw the field starting on the OL.

quote:

a converted WR in fall camp at CB


Got a converted WR moved to RB but thankfully the freshmen have showed up so we moved him back to WR.



We have two starters out the 2013 senior class. Of the 51 signed in 13 and 14 only 27 are left. Your situation was worse but we're not exactly sitting pretty with the upperclassmen.

Another issue is Richt's OL recruiting has been poor and it shows. He believed that stud skill players could overcome weak OLs. We want a power run game and that's not going to happen with weak OL recruiting.
Posted by David Ricky
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Member since Sep 2015
24170 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:26 am to
quote:

We're where UT was when Butch took over


Posted by David Ricky
Hailing From Parts Unknown
Member since Sep 2015
24170 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:47 am to
2013 VOLS were easily the least talented Tennessee team in my lifetime. Dooley left Butch a very nice OL full of seniors that were about to graduate and that's about it. Remember the 2012 class in which Dooley took ZERO offensive lineman? That team was so devoid of talent, it was astonishing.

QB - Worley and Peterman
RB - Rajion Neal, Lane and slaw arse Devrin Young
WR - Starters were Cody Blanc, Jacob Carter and Pig Howard lmao.

TE - Brendan Downs...not sure who else.
OL - Nice starting 5 with nothing behind them

DL - Jaq Smith, McCullers, Daniel Hood, Walls, Saulsberry, Jordan Williams

LB - AJJ and Maggitt were legit players. Nothing but pure slaw behind them like Dontavius Sapp, Crump, Channing Fugate, John Propst.

DB - Randolph and Coleman were solid but my god at the lack of talent and speed in this area. Brent Brewer, Lemonade Johnson, Tino Thomas, Orta, Eric Gordon, Riyahd Jones.


The above roster is exactly why Butch took like 33 recruits in his first full class and nearly all of them played significant roles or started as true freshmen in 2014. I cannot believe Mr. Osborne just compared Georgia's current roster to the above trash heap I just listed.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39963 posts
Posted on 9/28/16 at 9:55 am to
quote:

I cannot believe Mr. Osborne just compared Georgia's current roster to the above trash heap I just listed.


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