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Let's talk defense

Posted on 7/17/15 at 12:18 pm
Posted by Serraneaux
South of 30a
Member since Mar 2014
19533 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 12:18 pm
This should be an extremely good defense this year. Last year, we finished #36 in the country. A guy like Corey Vereen is a Jr and will be a backup DE. He gives his all on every play.

DE - Derek Barnett
DE - Curt Maggitt

Backups - Cory Vereen, Kyle Phillips, Darrel Taylor, Andrew Butcher

DT - Owen Williams
DT - Danny Obrien

Backups - Kahlil McKenzie (for now), Shy Tuttle, and Kendall Vickers

Keep in mind Stripling got last year's DL with zero returning starters up to speed.

LBs - Jalen Reeves Maybin, Dillon Bates, Darrin Kirkland, Jr,

Backups or starters - Kenny Bynum, Cortez McDowel-he is on the JRM plan

Backups - Elliot Berry, Gavin Bryant, Quarte Sapp, Austin Smith

We have bodies here but not a ton of experience

CB - Cam Sutton
CB - Justin Martin or Mosely
SS - Ladarell McNeil
FS - Brian Randolph

Backups or starters - Todd Kelly, Evan Berry, Rashaun Gaulden and then Malik Foreman and Devaun Swofford. All of these guys played alot last year.

This is going to be the most talented defense we've had on paper since 2005.

Posted by Robert Goulet
Member since Jan 2013
9999 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 2:43 pm to
Are you sure you posted this on the right board?

I think this defense will be very stout this year. I'm only worried about DT being a little thin and LB inexperience although I think the talent is there in both positions. I really think K McKenzie has a huge impact early and often.
Posted by Supravol22
Member since Jan 2011
14408 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 3:11 pm to
MLB is the weak point. Everywhere else seems in good shape to me
Posted by Serraneaux
South of 30a
Member since Mar 2014
19533 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 3:16 pm to
I figured I'd give the secr a break.
Posted by tennessee391
Member since Dec 2008
4885 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 4:00 pm to
LaTroy Lewis, Chris Weatherd, and Dimarya Mixon should all make an impact as well.

Pretty exciting looking at the talent on this D. MLB will be the question mark but there is some real potential there with Bates and Kirkland.
This post was edited on 7/17/15 at 4:07 pm
Posted by Serraneaux
South of 30a
Member since Mar 2014
19533 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 4:32 pm to
quote:

LaTroy Lewis, Chris Weatherd, and Dimarya Mixon should all make an impact as well.


God. I forgot all about those three. WOW.
Posted by NorthGAVol
Member since Sep 2011
8939 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 4:36 pm to
FL98 insider posted his projected depth chart for fall practice and the defense looks filthy. He also said he expects Kahlil to start at DT against Bowling Green even though he's #2 right now.

quote:


LE Maggitt Phillips Lewis

DT O’Brien Vickers Tuttle

DT Williams McKenzie Saulsberry

RE Barnett Vereen Mixon

OLB Reeves-Maybin McDowell Sapp

MLB Bynum Bates Kirkland

CB Sutton Foreman Abernathy

FS Randolph Berry Griffin

SS McNeil Kelly, Jr. Arnold

CB Moseley Martin Gatewood

NICKEL Gaulden Miller
Posted by Serraneaux
South of 30a
Member since Mar 2014
19533 posts
Posted on 7/17/15 at 7:57 pm to
Either way KMac is going to play alot. I think he will be better than kcdemiche and have a Barnett type impact.
Posted by TennesseeSaturday
Chattanooga, Tn
Member since Jun 2014
614 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 2:18 am to
quote:

LaTroy Lewis, Chris Weatherd, and Dimarya Mixon should all make an impact as well.


quote:

God. I forgot all about those three. WOW.


Crazy thing about depth huh? Haha. All three guys will be contributors though.

Weatherd was a beast every time he was in the game last year. Always pressured the QB.
Posted by Robert Goulet
Member since Jan 2013
9999 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 12:19 pm to
Has anyone heard if TKjr has a chance to supplant McNeil or has McNeil finally turned the corner? I had high hopes for him when he came here.
Posted by BigOrangeVols
Knoxville
Member since Jul 2015
3067 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 2:43 pm to
I am right there with you, although you forgot Chris Weatherd in the DE/LB slot. As well as Saulsberry at DT if he's healthy
Posted by NorthGAVol
Member since Sep 2011
8939 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

Has anyone heard if TKjr has a chance to supplant McNeil or has McNeil finally turned the corner? I had high hopes for him when he came here.


I hope so. I thought TK looked great towards the end of last year when he started getting significant PT. McNeil is good at coming up and helping in the run game but imo he's a major liability in coverage. I think teams will make a real effort to pick on McNeil through the air this year with Coleman gone.
Posted by Robert Goulet
Member since Jan 2013
9999 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 6:17 pm to
quote:

I think teams will make a real effort to pick on McNeil through the air this year with Coleman gone.


As they should. dude can lay a lick but his coverage sometimes sucks and his angles are absolutely awful at times. TKjr will be a star, might as well get it started early.
Posted by Legendary0903
Tree Fiddy Green Money
Member since Jan 2014
4416 posts
Posted on 7/18/15 at 6:23 pm to
Pass Rush may be the best in the country. DL and DB positions are starting to look incredible. LB, outside of JRM, is a bit of a question mark, but I have confidence that group will be above average.

Opposing offenses will just have to pick their poison.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42604 posts
Posted on 7/19/15 at 5:53 pm to
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Chris Weatherd


Weatherd is our best pass rusher - period. He's been working in the LB/DE hybrid role Maggitt performs and depending on how much he picks up he will see a ton of snaps, imo. Imagine rotating Maggitt and Weathered just to keep them fresh. Maggitt is better all the way around but not as a pass rusher. We could see something like 50-50 on passing downs or even 60-40. OH. MY. GAWD.

Lewis is a solid backup but I need to see more from Mixon. If we run enough nickel we can bring MLB around slowly and TBH we ran a lot of nickel last year and should run even more this year. We don't stay in our 4-3 base a lot and when our MLB is ready we will give him some better looks BUT JRM and Maggitt are both capable of setting alignment and fulfilling the QB of the D role the MLB/ILB usually provides.

That's not to say MLB/ILB isn't a weakspot. It is but because we run so much nickel we may be better off than we think and have more time to break the new guy in.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42604 posts
Posted on 7/19/15 at 5:55 pm to
quote:

Has anyone heard if TKjr has a chance to supplant McNeil or has McNeil finally turned the corner? I had high hopes for him when he came here.


He's talented enough but he's not going to supplant a senior with that much experience. TKjr's biggest problem has been that he's so very green. That said, he should see a lot more snaps this year.

EDIT: I could be wrong as I'm too lazy to doublecheck but I think it would be Randolph he'd take the job from and he's just too good.
This post was edited on 7/19/15 at 5:57 pm
Posted by footballtimeintn
Nashville
Member since Feb 2013
732 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 4:36 pm to
I'm really pumped about the defense. I think our front seven especially will be elite for next several years. A little worried about Moesely at the other corner opposite Sutton but I think we will be fine.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39955 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 5:48 pm to
How comfortable do you guys feel with Jancek and Martinez?
Posted by Robert Goulet
Member since Jan 2013
9999 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:42 pm to
If I understand correctly, the safeties are pretty much interchangeable. Im sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. I don't see anyone taking Randolph's job, but who knows.

quote:

How comfortable do you guys feel with Jancek and Martinez?


I think they have done a good job so far. The defense looked so much better last year than it did during the preceding few years, which isn't saying all that much, but still.
This post was edited on 7/20/15 at 6:44 pm
Posted by NorthGAVol
Member since Sep 2011
8939 posts
Posted on 7/20/15 at 9:38 pm to
quote:

How comfortable do you guys feel with Jancek and Martinez?


I feel like they've done a pretty good job in the past two years and I HATED the hires when it happened.
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