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Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:54 am to Blanky6715
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:54 am to Blanky6715
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Landry
Was never an All-Pro. He made the Pro Bowl once in his career.
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Webster
Zero Pro Bowls and zero All-Pro selections.
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Reid
See Landry above.
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Mathieu
He has one Pro Bowl appearance and was named to the 2015 All-Pro team.
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 1:30 pm to TideSaint
My bad counting pro bowls as all pro. Admitably wrong on webster i thought he had made the pro bowl year before the 2nd super bowl. Regardless thats 4 pro bowlers in recent memory in the defensive backfield with Adams soon to be a 5th in my opinion.
Reid, Tyrann and peterson still have a lot of football left to play in their careers so when you say Reid and Tyrann have only made one pro bowl its not that bad considering their youth.
Reid, Tyrann and peterson still have a lot of football left to play in their careers so when you say Reid and Tyrann have only made one pro bowl its not that bad considering their youth.
This post was edited on 2/21/17 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 2/21/17 at 1:43 pm to Blanky6715
I'm not giving you shite, I was just pointing it out. 
And just FYI, Alabama had two DBs make the Pro Bowl this past year.
Landon Collins was 1st Team All-Pro and Ha-Ha Clinton Dix was 2nd Team All-Pro.
And just FYI, Alabama had two DBs make the Pro Bowl this past year.
Landon Collins was 1st Team All-Pro and Ha-Ha Clinton Dix was 2nd Team All-Pro.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 6:44 am to TideSaint
Do you really believe bama db's have as much success as lsu db's in the league and college?
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:28 am to Brunedog
Other than Patrick Peterson?
Absolutely.
But you're welcome to try to prove me wrong with actual data and not opinions.
Absolutely.
But you're welcome to try to prove me wrong with actual data and not opinions.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:56 am to TideSaint
Lol
"Take away the best DB in LSU and arguably SEC history, and yea!!"
"Take away the best DB in LSU and arguably SEC history, and yea!!"
Posted on 2/22/17 at 8:57 am to TideSaint
Mathieu was a Heisman finalist. Who would you say Bama has had that you'd compare to him? Javier Arenas?
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:16 am to cas4t
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"Take away the best DB in LSU and arguably SEC history, and yea!!"
Still only one guy. Just because Julio Jones played at Alabama doesn't mean Alabama has the best WR corps in SEC history.
And in 5 years we may be saying Landon Collins is arguably the best DB in SEC history if he keeps it up.
This post was edited on 2/22/17 at 9:21 am
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:10 am to TideSaint
Yet wasn't as good as Mathieu. Particularly as a DB. Patiently awaiting an actual refute.
This post was edited on 2/22/17 at 10:11 am
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:12 am to TideSaint
If you're going to troll, at least do better than that. Right now you're just exposing the truth. I'm genuinely curious as to this discussion. Awaiting your responses and I will counter.
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you're welcome to try to prove me wrong with actual data and not opinions.
This post was edited on 2/22/17 at 10:14 am
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:25 am to TideSaint
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And in 5 years we may be saying Landon Collins is arguably the best DB in SEC history if he keeps it up
Not if Peterson keeps it up.
If Tyrann stays healthy you may be saying the same about him in 5 years and he only played two years in the SEC
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:49 am to Blanky6715
Mathieu has already earned his keep. Collins has as well. To say Collins is on pace to surpass either Peterson right now is just homerism. He's had one season. Plus, his college career as a DB doesn't come close to Peterson.
This post was edited on 2/22/17 at 10:50 am
Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:53 am to cas4t
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you're welcome to try to prove me wrong with actual data and not opinions.
Passing Defense Efficiency Rankings:
Alabama:
2016 - #9
2015 - #8
2014 - #30
2013 - #26
2012 - #7
2011 - #1
2010 - #6
2009 - #2
2008 - #14
Alabama's average ranking over the last 9 years - #11
LSU:
2016 - #15
2015 - #51
2014 - #3
2013 - #28
2012 - #11
2011 - #3
2010 - #23
2009 - #19
2008 - #42
LSU's average ranking over the last 9 years - #22
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cas4t
You asked for it. You got it playa.
Your turn.
This post was edited on 2/22/17 at 10:57 am
Posted on 2/22/17 at 11:05 am to Blanky6715
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Not if Peterson keeps it up.
If Tyrann stays healthy you may be saying the same about him in 5 years and he only played two years in the SEC
You're right. No one knows how things will look in 5 years.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 11:09 am to cas4t
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To say Collins is on pace to surpass either Peterson right now is just homerism.
I didn't say that. I said if he keeps up his current pace we COULD be saying he is the best DB to come out of the SEC.
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Plus, his college career as a DB doesn't come close to Peterson.
Well he was playing behind the 2nd best Safety in the NFL his Freshman year. He was young and hadn't overtaken HCD like he has now. He still got a ring though.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 11:23 am to TideSaint
Team stats. Were we not discussing individual players?
Pass rush, DL, linebackers etc all play into those statistics. If anything, considering how much more overall talent Bama has in all positions, that makes LSUs pass D stats all the more impressive. Doing more with less.
You still haven't concluded anything as to your original point either. You're veering away from it with each post; which is understandable.
Pass rush, DL, linebackers etc all play into those statistics. If anything, considering how much more overall talent Bama has in all positions, that makes LSUs pass D stats all the more impressive. Doing more with less.
You still haven't concluded anything as to your original point either. You're veering away from it with each post; which is understandable.
Posted on 2/22/17 at 11:48 am to cas4t
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:28 pm to cas4t
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Were we not discussing individual players?
Sure. We can compare that too. Alabama had two All-Pro DBs this past season. How many did LSU have? Zero.
Alabama also had a first team AP All-American at Safety. LSU didn't.
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You still haven't concluded anything as to your original point either. You're veering away from it with each post; which is understandable.
My original point still stands. Saying LSU develops DBs better than Alabama is laughable. The stats, and awards, don't lie.
This post was edited on 2/22/17 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 2/22/17 at 9:48 pm to LSU Patrick
Kansas boasts the two best cornerbacks in the game; Aqib Talib and Chris Harris Jr. People tend to overlook them because Chris Harris Jr went undrafted and they both play on the same team.
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