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Posted on 3/12/17 at 9:45 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Posted on 3/12/17 at 9:45 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
They don't at the level you think. WM went 4-8 and pulled in a top 10 class. A higher ranked and rated one than Mac's 3 classes. Just face the facts. Mac is an average coach and recruiter. You're gonna see it all year this year. Buy some pepto.
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Posted on 3/12/17 at 12:01 pm to TJGator1215
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They don't at the level you think. WM went 4-8 and pulled in a top 10 class. A higher ranked and rated one than Mac's 3 classes. Just face the facts. Mac is an average coach and recruiter. You're gonna see it all year this year. Buy some pepto.
It's just weird because the year after he only had three stars and recruiting was slipping. Maybe that kind of finish had an impact on recruiting, like Miami going 10 - 2 would?
Maybe you simply change the narrative when they're different coaches.
You know, how Kirby's Oline hampered him but it wasn't an excuse for McElwain.
Now that winning/losing games helps recruiting.
Posted on 3/12/17 at 5:41 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Winning and losing games doesn't affect recruiting. It's how you look. That's why Kirby can pull in elite classes and Mac is taking risks to fill his.
Posted on 3/12/17 at 11:29 pm to TJGator1215
The point is not what you fill the class with, it's how the talent turns out.
There are quite a few three stars who did more than pull their weight -- even if all you do is try to diminish their contributions. Quite a few underclassmen in general, getting the team to work together and overcome adversary is what wins games.
Not being able to manage games does the opposite, and we have to see if Kirby can actually do something with the talent when he has it, and if he isn't going to be just like WM.
Every indication at this point suggests the latter, he doesn't scare me at all strategically.
There are quite a few three stars who did more than pull their weight -- even if all you do is try to diminish their contributions. Quite a few underclassmen in general, getting the team to work together and overcome adversary is what wins games.
Not being able to manage games does the opposite, and we have to see if Kirby can actually do something with the talent when he has it, and if he isn't going to be just like WM.
Every indication at this point suggests the latter, he doesn't scare me at all strategically.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 7:44 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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The point is not what you fill the class with, it's how the talent turns out.
Yet you consistently point out how Kirby's situation is somehow better because our 2013 class was ranked so highly, even though that class only produced 3-4 starters and was 75% busts.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 9:15 am to ATLdawg25
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Yet you consistently point out how Kirby's situation is somehow better because our 2013 class was ranked so highly, even though that class only produced 3-4 starters and was 75% busts.
Nope.
Not even close, Don Windmill Tilter.
I'm saying that Georgia, which consistently recruits well, better than 90% of the field, seems to never be able to turn decent players good, and good players great.
2016 was a top ten class.
2015 was a top five class.
2014 was a top ten class.
2013 was the number 12th ranked class.
2012 was top ten.
Five years, only one outside the top ten and it's by two slots.
Are you telling me every one of those classes were busts? Isn't it weird that a guy like McElwain has underclassmen all over the field producing on offense and defense?
Dawg fans more deluded than I thought.
This post was edited on 3/13/17 at 9:21 am
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:27 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
It's been proven you aren't smart enough to understand any simple point made proving that richt left behind a poorly balanced roster for 2016. Unlike the old days, Class rankings have zero to do with roster balance. Perhaps that's their biggest flaw in their present form, but I doubt you even understand what it means.
Here is another thing you would prefer to deny: Uga has never had a class as well balanced as the 2017 one, and it replaces our 2013 class, which was recently ranked 13th best in the sec behind Vandy, miss st, sc, ark, and uk.
Here is another thing you would prefer to deny: Uga has never had a class as well balanced as the 2017 one, and it replaces our 2013 class, which was recently ranked 13th best in the sec behind Vandy, miss st, sc, ark, and uk.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 11:33 am to djsdawg
It only plays sad songs. Sorry your coach doesn't know how to use talent.
I mean it's cool, you guys had top ten classes for the past 4 out of 5 years (now five out of six) and struggle to beat FCS teams.
No way that's a result of bad coaching, the players just aren't there!
This post was edited on 3/13/17 at 11:53 am
Posted on 3/13/17 at 12:13 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Don't to change the subject. Tell us about roster balance. Prove you aren't the retard you have made yourself appear to be over the past 5 weeks.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 2:26 pm to djsdawg
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Don't to change the subject. Tell us about roster balance. Prove you aren't the retard you have made yourself appear to be over the past 5 weeks.
I've already broken out average ranking of offensive recruits under Muschamp for Straws but this is essentially what we're left with of his pathetic ramblings:
Averaged top 5ish classes under Muschamp: "Recruiting rankings are a joke... none of those kids were as good as their ranking"
Averaged top 10 classes under Richt (and Smart in year 1): "Where is all the talent... I mean surely the recruiting rankings can't be wrong. Also, it's entirely Smart's fault that his freshmen recruits in year one were unable to provide quality starters at every position of need. Muschamp 2.0..."
Posted on 3/13/17 at 3:40 pm to fibonaccisquared
As Straws likes to say "It's not the talent you bring in, it's how they turn out".
Unless we're talking about UGA, then all that matters is the recruiting rankings.
Unless we're talking about UGA, then all that matters is the recruiting rankings.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 6:11 pm to fibonaccisquared
Nah, top 5ish, top 10ish rankings matter.
You guys want to talk about balance yet don't understand we hadn't had a real quarterback the entire tenure of Muschamp, nor McElwain.
No real playmakers outside of two guys? Average running backs and an even worse offensive line.
What maktters more is how the coach turns, notices and develops the talent.
You know, bringing in a guy like Callaway, a three star recruit and having him outperform any of our upperclassmen. Then the next year bringing in a guy like Tyrie, who doesn't even play the entire season but suddenly blows up on the scene.
Did that happen for Georgia? Did you guys have a bunch of underclassmen come in and produce?
Do you guys think you recruited so poorly that Vanderbilt should have beaten you? That you should have beaten Nicholls by two points? That you should have beaten Kentucky by three? A blowout loss to a team that didn't bowl?
Or do you think your inexperienced coach was what did you in?
You guys want to talk about balance yet don't understand we hadn't had a real quarterback the entire tenure of Muschamp, nor McElwain.
No real playmakers outside of two guys? Average running backs and an even worse offensive line.
What maktters more is how the coach turns, notices and develops the talent.
You know, bringing in a guy like Callaway, a three star recruit and having him outperform any of our upperclassmen. Then the next year bringing in a guy like Tyrie, who doesn't even play the entire season but suddenly blows up on the scene.
Did that happen for Georgia? Did you guys have a bunch of underclassmen come in and produce?
Do you guys think you recruited so poorly that Vanderbilt should have beaten you? That you should have beaten Nicholls by two points? That you should have beaten Kentucky by three? A blowout loss to a team that didn't bowl?
Or do you think your inexperienced coach was what did you in?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 6:25 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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guys want to talk about balance yet don't understand we hadn't had a real quarterback the entire tenure of Muschamp, nor McElwain.
Even some idiots understand that one has nothing to do with the other. Since you don't understand that, it makes you a special kind of idiot. Congrats on proving that to everyone time and time again.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 7:37 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Mac got production out of Tyrie, the #2 overall receiver in 2016? Holy shite what a coach!
You're a joke dude.
You're a joke dude.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 8:41 pm to djsdawg
Not being able to get the guy at QB is a big negative though. Richt did pretty well with that in his career. Meanwhile Maclewain is signing Jake Allen...lol
Posted on 3/13/17 at 8:55 pm to Richt_TheU
Richt did well with qbs up until the end, but we were in a bind in 2015 and that's how he left town.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:41 am to Richt_TheU
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Not being able to get the guy at QB is a big negative though.
Nah, dude. Richt left Georgia barren with his near ten win seasons in a more difficult schedule (not my words) with his almost ubiquitous top-ten recruiting classes.
Georgia got a better top-ten recruiting class this year, things are finally changing.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 2:44 am to ATLdawg25
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Mac got production out of Tyrie, the #2 overall receiver in 2016? Holy shite what a coach!
You're a joke dude.
Cleveland looked more the man than Eason did.
Your coach is a joke, dude.
Posted on 3/14/17 at 6:12 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Ok, I'll play. Name Cleveland's 4 best games last year. I'm genuinely curious how Mac used him in such a way that he "blew up on the scene".
This post was edited on 3/14/17 at 6:16 am
Posted on 3/14/17 at 9:34 am to ATLdawg25
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Ok, I'll play. Name Cleveland's 4 best games last year. I'm genuinely curious how Mac used him in such a way that he "blew up on the scene".
How about we just compare the #2 overall receiver (#33 composite player) to the #46 overall receiver (#234 composite player)...
Tyrie Cleveland
14 Receptions
298 Yards
21.3 YPC
98 - TD (long)
2 TDs
Riley Ridley
12 Receptions
238 Yards
19.8 YPC
57 (long)
2 TDs
So one coach recruited the consensus #2 WR and got essentially the same production as the #46 overall receiver. That's some amazing evaluation of talent that no one else could have predicted... Mac really has a gift. And damn if he didn't really develop that kid... particularly given that 1/3 of Cleveland's yards and 1/2 of his touchdowns came on a single play.
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