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re: 4 star RB Iverson Clement from NJ commits to the Gators

Posted on 4/20/17 at 6:30 am to
Posted by atlgator
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 6:30 am to
Yeah we'll have a solid running back class with Iverson and Asa Martin. I really like the way this class is shaping up amongst the running backs, OL, and DB. I'm a little nervous about the defensive line, linebackers and quarterbacks, but I think the staff has identified their guys and I hope that they land them. We'll see.
Posted by Richt_TheU
Member since Sep 2016
168 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 10:14 pm to
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For 18, I think Lingard is our top target


I'm sure he was.
But no chance at all at getting him.

Im honestly very surprised you guys aren't targeting curry. I really like him.
Posted by TIGERSPIKE
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:19 pm to
Why would a school like Florida ever need to go to NJ to get a skill player?
Posted by Richt_TheU
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:43 pm to
Miami and fsu have the top 3 backs in the state. And for some reason they don't want the 4th, Chris curry.
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 4/26/17 at 10:01 pm to
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Why would a school like Florida ever need to go to NJ to get a skill player?



Because our recruiting is fricking horrible under Mac, this is the season where we see if the "stars don't matter" crowd that's defended Mac's approach to team building is right or wrong.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 5:26 am to
OSU got a commit from sevyn banks last night. His bro goes to UF? Figured he was destined for Gainesville

What's his skillset? Know he was injured all last year
Posted by atlgator
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:39 am to
UF liked him, just not enough spots in the secondary for this class. Florida has CJ Smith and Divaad Wilson committed, likely landing Amari Burney over OSU in June, and lead for 5 star Tyreke Johnson.

Just not enough room for him. Good pick up for y'all though
Posted by atlgator
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:40 am to
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Because our recruiting is fricking horrible under Mac, this is the season where we see if the "stars don't matter" crowd that's defended Mac's approach to team building is right or wrong.


Class ranked 20th, 12th, 10th in first three years.

Currently ranked 24th for 2018
Currently ranked #1 for 2019

Recruiting is and is going to continue to be fine.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23102 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 9:55 am to
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likely landing Amari Burney over OSU in June


I mean OSU already has 2 safeties ranked higher than him committed, so maybe he was going to choose UF over OSU anyway, but OSU is fine at safety in this class.

OSU is hard after Cook and Griffith still, and may be the favorite for both. I just assumed OSU would take 4 this year, not 5+
Posted by atlgator
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 12:47 pm to
I'm sorry I didn't mean that to be taken as a troll in any way. Ohio State is the only other school he's named and it was relevant to you as an OSU fan.

Florida took 6 DBs last year, so they're more limited this year. They took Divaad Wilson as a CB and are recruiting Tyreke Johnson as a CB even though he's listed as a safety. And they're recruiting CJ smith and Amari Burney to be safeties.

Those guys plus the 5 blue chip DBs we signed last year have me really excited about the future of our defensive backfield even after losing so many NFL guys in the last few years.

Also, I'm extremely impressed with how well Urb has it rolling up there recruiting wise. It's hard for me to hate a guy that won my school two national championships. I can't believe that this year he'll have been at OSU as long as he was at UF.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 2:01 pm to
As i looked at what I said in my head I said "I hope he doesn't think I'm scoffing"

Yea OSU has it rolling, but they need to win another one to solidify it all
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
5520 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 2:06 pm to
Haha no worries. Do y'all got Barrett coming back at QB or is Haskins taking over?
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23102 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 2:28 pm to
Yea Barrett is coming back, and of course there is a % of people who want him benched and Haskins to be the guy. I think almost all of Barrett's problems were coaching, as we all saw what he did in 2014 where he broke B1G records for offense. We'll see. I think the DL could be the best in the country and go a legit 10 deep, and the Meyer effect after losing bowl games (2 titles) usually helps
Posted by atlgator
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 4/27/17 at 3:33 pm to
Meyer has tended to rely on good OC's too. Won both Nattys with Dan Mullen as our OC, and won his 1 at OSU with Tom Herman. Part of hat did him in at UF was Addazio wasn't anywhere near the level of coach that Dan Mullen was.

We'll see how y'all respond this year. I think you'll constantly be in the B1G Championship and Playoff discussion as long as he's there. The recruiting indicates that won't change anytime soon. Hopefully Florida can get back to consistently being at that level under Mac. I really like what he's done so far, I'm just ready for us to take that next step forward to consistent national contenders with that top group of the Alabama's, OSU, FSU, and Clemson
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:28 pm to
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Class ranked 20th, 12th, 10th in first three years.

Currently ranked 24th for 2018
Currently ranked #1 for 2019

Recruiting is and is going to continue to be fine.



If 2019 holds I'll shut up but its so far out that class rating at this point aren't exactly meaningful.

Let's say 2018 improves (it has to) and ends up in the 10-15 range, and let's take out the transition year because that's pretty unfair to judge a guy on.

That would mean Mac's three non-transition years are all in the 10-15 range. That sounds good in a bubble but falls apart as soon as you begin to add context: each of those classes would individually be the worst non-transition class Florida had signed since widespread recruiting ranking began in the early 00s; the average would be worse than 3 teams Florida plays annually and a 4th they almost always have to play to win the conference.

Basically a Mac regime has to be so good at coaching that it doesn't just beat 1 or 2 teams more talented than the Gators annually, it has to beat 3 to 5 before it even reaches the playoffs.

Mac is turning Florida (talentwise) into a mid-level program along the lines of TAMU or Auburn and will likely be as successful as those programs are in terms of achieving nationally relevant objectives.
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 4/30/17 at 2:29 pm to
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Meyer has tended to rely on good OC's too.



I mean I think we could really use a good OC, thus far Mac hasn't really shown much in the way of offensive improvement whatsoever.
Posted by BamaBully
Member since Jan 2017
153 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:10 pm to
Clement reminds me of Percy Harvin.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 8/20/17 at 12:05 am to
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I mean I think we could really use a good OC, thus far Mac hasn't really shown much in the way of offensive improvement whatsoever.


Keep in mind that the offense hadn't been doing well for six years. Also, keep in mind, Muschamp recruited the defensive side of the ball more than he did the offensive. McElwain had six offensive linemen on scholarship when he set foot on campus -- that's a terrible situation.

He had to basically come in and rebuild the entire offensive line (this takes a minimum of two full years and maybe the third you'll have it the way you want it), the quarterback position (Grier pissing hot, there was no one behind him) and his receivers look much, much better than Muschamp era receivers.

Del Rio threw for the most yards since 2008, and considering, that's fricking bad. Del Rio is practically a walk-on, mind you.

The offense has been bad since Meyer left, and really, a year before he did. It's been in shambles. Asking him to somehow wave a magic wand and improve the offense when there are no quarterbacks, very little talent on the Oline, undertrained receivers and brand new running backs (outside of Taylor who never did anything at Florida) with mediocre tightends?

He won the East with terrible offenses, and his defenses set records (least amount of yards ever allowed in Florida history).

I understand you're concerned with the offense, but considering what he had to work with -- he's done pretty fricking phenomenal.
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