re: 2016's last uncommitted 5* - Demetris Robertson

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From what I found they don't let that many athletes in that don't meet their normal requirements. How in the frick can they be that good?

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I think there is pretty limited publicly available info here, but this was a pretty decent read: LINK /

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Perhaps the most controversial aspect of this trade-off is admissions standards for athletes. Many of my friends at Stanford with whom I have discussed athletic admissions are under the impression that academic standards for admission are essentially the same for athletes and non-athletes, even in high revenue sports like football. This impression is pushed by the athletics department. When Duke University economist Charles Clotfelter gave a presentation at Stanford claiming that universities were making academic concessions, including relaxed admissions standards, in order to have successful athletic programs, Stanford’s senior associate athletic director responded: “I beg to differ on that. We haven’t lowered our academic standards.” Football coach David Shaw has repeated this mantra: Responding to critics claiming that Stanford had relaxed its academic standards to achieve football success, he claimed, “We have the same academic standards.”
But this is not actually true. Although we do not have comprehensive statistics comparing athletic admits to regular admits, some data does exist. Looking at a group of 10 elite colleges and using SAT scores (on the 1600 point scale) as a proxy for academic ability, Princeton researchers found that being a recruited athlete gave an admissions boost equivalent to scoring 200 points higher on the SAT. We can also look at high school scouting reports for football players. Looking at the Stanford recruitment class of 2009 (this year was quite typical in terms of test scores), the median football player who reported scores got an 1800 out of 2400 on the SAT and 26 on the ACT. Based on university statistics, this puts the football median comfortably in the bottom quartile and likely somewhere in the bottom 10 percent in terms of test scores. Stanford football players are quite smart, but the data suggests they place near the bottom of Stanford’s admits.

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Unless something has changed since I was in school (other than the 2400 vs 1600 scale), it seems like a no brainer to take the ACT... I maxed that one out without studying... would assume if the kid is going to make it at Stanford, a 26 should be pretty manageable.

Stanford also tends to attract higher scoring recruits as well. The kind of kids whose parents have made school a priority, and who realize that playing in front of an raucous student section isn't as important as the degree. So they self select to a large degree.

Which is why I don't know why you guys are discounting Tech so much. GT is the only OV that got both his mom and brother in with him. Apparently he had a "5 star visit" as his brother put it to GT and said GT "fits the bill" regarding the level of education and football they value.

Apparently Demetris is actively calling Paul Johnson every other day or so since his OV. Also the mother particularly enjoyed the education at GT coupled with distance to home over ND.

I think the Robertsons care more about education than most 5 star type kids which is what it'll take for a program like GT to grab his services. Calvin Johnson was similar in his approach.

The Irish supposedly gave him a ultimatum, sign his LOI with them on NSD or they are moving on. I don't think he raises his SAT 100 plus points so that eliminates Stanford, looks to be a GT, UGA or Bama battle for the 5 star.

I think he has been fed a lot of bullshite by other programs and his own brother about the quality of education in state. UGA and Trch both are outstanding universities. Really it just depends on what he wants to do

Who's the last 5 star Tech landed?

I have family in the Sav area, and they are telling me he's Bama bound if he doesn't get in to Stanford. One of his HS coaches played for UGA and is trying to keep UGA in his ear, but some of his family isn't big on him going to UGA. I haven't heard anything in regards to GT other then his family visiting.

If he stays in the SEC I would think UA. I see no advantage UGA would hold over UA especially of the field current. UGA may dominate the east in the near future but no one knows for sure.

Stanford over GT is a no brainer. Yes GT offers a higher education over most SEC school except maybe Vandy but Stanford offers a great education and has a good football team as well.

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I see no advantage UGA would hold over UA

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What about ummm playing time?

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UGA is a much better academic school than Alabama, so if education is a prime factor in his decision then Bama isn't a threat to UGA

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Typical UGA fan response. You're not Harvard of the South.

Alabama's business school is ranked #58 according to US News and World Report. UGA is ranked #53. Not exactly as far away as you make it seem.