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re: Would you rather win 9 games 8 out of 10 years or compete for a title every 4
Posted on 9/23/16 at 7:17 pm to SECFan1995
Posted on 9/23/16 at 7:17 pm to SECFan1995
Champions are all that matters. If you aren't getting a ring, it doesn't matter.
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Posted on 9/23/16 at 7:29 pm to Bench McElroy
quote:In this scenario, I would clearly rather be Kansas.
This comparison would work better for college basketball. Would you rather root for UCONN coached by Jim Calhoun who basically averaged one NC every 5-7 seasons (1999, 2004, 2011) but also have inconsistent years where they don't even make the NCAA Tournament or root for Kansas with Bill Self who's won the Big 12 conference title 10 consecutive years but have only have one NC to show for it?
It doesn't quite translate to an SEC football board, though. Win the SEC every season would mean you likely compete for the national title every season.
Ask a Bama fan if they'd retain their current head coach, if he was still 0-for, or maybe had only 1 title in this run.
I think if they had lost that many big games, he'd be out.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 7:30 pm to SECFan1995
So would I rather be Georgia or Auburn?
Ummmmmmm , Georgia???
Ummmmmmm , Georgia???
Posted on 9/23/16 at 7:34 pm to SECFan1995
What a stupid fricking question.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 7:51 pm to wdhalgren
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That's probably because you can't navigate beyond the groupthink that infests the internet
No, group think isn't my problem (and as a sidenote, you are one arrogant son of a bitch...just an FYI). I dont give a shite about Kirby. Same as I didn't give a shite about Mark Richt. I'm a Georgia football fan. I'm willing to give Kriby some time, but if he can't get it done I'll want someone else to take a shot.
I want our team to win championships. How some coach performs relative to another coach in our history means frick all to me. How nice of a person or how respected our coach is is worthless to me.
I'm with you on Kirby needing to win, but I am unbelieveably happy that Richt is not on our sideline anymore.
This post was edited on 9/23/16 at 7:52 pm
Posted on 9/23/16 at 8:06 pm to TTsTowel
saw the shiny hook and bit it anyway. Can't make this up.Posted on 9/23/16 at 8:44 pm to BloodRunsRed&Black
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as a sidenote, you are one arrogant son of a bitch
This coming from a person arrogant enough to make the following statement about one of the most successful coaches in UGA history, and one of the most successful in college football over the last 15 years:
Kirby may not be the guy, but Richt sure wasn't.
Even if you're correct about me being an arrogant SOB, I'll have to file that under it takes one to know one. No other description for someone who can make such a cocksure statement about a great head coach. But, more likely you simply can't think for yourself. And if you think that's also arrogant of me, just remember, you're the one who dumped on my opinion with an arrogant rebuttal first, not the other way around.
This post was edited on 9/23/16 at 8:56 pm
Posted on 9/23/16 at 8:56 pm to wdhalgren
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wdhalgren
That is not arrogant, it is fact.
Championships. Richt had none for a decade, so frick his win percentage because he failed where it matters. So, in my opinion, it was time for him to take his talents to South Beach.
Kirby may not get any either. Time will tell.
Either way, you're obviously butthurt over this coaching change. I'm sorry your feelings are hurt.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 8:58 pm to SECFan1995
For a while LSU was doing both......... 
Last year fricked it up though
Last year fricked it up though
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:02 pm to TTsTowel
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Compete for a title every 4 years.
I'd rather go for five in eight.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:02 pm to lsupride87
For a while LSU was doing both.........
Last year fricked it up though
03 natty
04 9 wins
05 11 wins
06 11 wins
07 natty
08 8 wins
09 9 wins
10 11 wins
11 played for natty
12 10 wins
13 10 wins
14 8wins
15 no natty contention
Last year fricked it up though
03 natty
04 9 wins
05 11 wins
06 11 wins
07 natty
08 8 wins
09 9 wins
10 11 wins
11 played for natty
12 10 wins
13 10 wins
14 8wins
15 no natty contention
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:08 pm to BloodRunsRed&Black
Like I said, if you'd been around in 1979, you'd have been leading the mob demanding Vince Dooley be fired. Face it, your crystal ball is clouded by emotion too. I'm too old to get "butthurt" over football (or much of anything that doesn't involve people I care about), but not too old to understand how difficult is to win national championships, especially in the toughest conference in cfb. It requires luck, talent, timing, and maybe a little more cheating than Mark Richt was willing to do. But he still won the SEC twice more than anyone in the prior 20 years at UGA, and came within a whisker in 2012.
But you've done a good job of reading the postseason national championship list and we're not on it, so obviously nothing else matters.
But you've done a good job of reading the postseason national championship list and we're not on it, so obviously nothing else matters.
This post was edited on 9/23/16 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:18 pm to TTsTowel
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Compete for a title every 4 years.
if this means actually in the CFP . I am in.
every team competes for championships from day 1. some lose hope sooner than others.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:19 pm to wdhalgren
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Face it, your crystal ball is clouded by emotion too.
Clouded by emotion? Absolutely. Always emotioinal about the Dawgs, what fan isn't? Clouded by loyalty? Not to any coach. Not Kirby, not Richt, not Dooley. Do not care about them in the slightest outside of team performance. Do not care about their hopes and dreams or what kind of humans they are. Just not important.
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so obviously nothing else matters.
Yes, nothing else matters. A good win percentage is nice, but after a while, if you can't turn it into anything, get the frick out.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:38 pm to BloodRunsRed&Black
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Yes, nothing else matters..., if you can't turn it into anything, get the frick out.
See that's my definition of arrogance. Someone who thinks their knowledge of past events translates into certainty about future events. I'm sure Vince Dooley's detractors in 1979 said the same thing with the same misplaced conviction: "You're not the guy, get the frick out". But they were simply impatient children throwing a tantrum about things they didn't understand, and they were wrong.
Richt's record is clear evidence that his teams were almost always in the mix. But childish fans believe their right to a championship gives them 100% foresight on what will happen next. So our fans threw a tantrum until one of our best coaches ever was fired. Not because we had a sure fire thing waiting in the wings, but for a defensive coordinator who didn't even control his own defense. That kind of "emotion" is not what builds or maintains programs. It's just arrogance, as you put it.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:48 pm to wdhalgren
Dooley was an oftentimes shitty coach who lucked into arguably the greatest college player of all time, but he NEVER went a decade without winning at least the conference.
Maybe Richt would have stumbled upon the next football Jesus. But probably not.
Just glad he is gone and we can try something new.
Maybe Richt would have stumbled upon the next football Jesus. But probably not.
Just glad he is gone and we can try something new.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:59 pm to BloodRunsRed&Black
I think we can probably end with somewhat of an agreement. Richt probably wouldn't have won a championship at UGA. It's long odds everywhere except maybe Alabama which recruits the #1 class practically every season. Kirby probably also won't win one, and the guy who replaces him probably won't either.
My guess, based on his relative success level at UGA and his understanding of how UGA works, is that Mark Richt was our best chance of winning one in the next 10 years. I also hope Richt's level of success is the worst thing that happens in the next 10, but I'm not optimistic about that. If Kirby Smart matches what Richt did, I'll definitely call him a great UGA coach too.
My guess, based on his relative success level at UGA and his understanding of how UGA works, is that Mark Richt was our best chance of winning one in the next 10 years. I also hope Richt's level of success is the worst thing that happens in the next 10, but I'm not optimistic about that. If Kirby Smart matches what Richt did, I'll definitely call him a great UGA coach too.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 11:35 pm to SECFan1995
Win at least 10 games every year and win a national title at least every 3 years or its a disappointment. That's the Saban at Bama way. There is no less that could satisfy me.
Posted on 9/24/16 at 12:03 am to SECFan1995
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Posted on 9/24/16 at 1:12 am to SECFan1995
Why choose when LSU does both and is trolled for it?
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