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Would you give this player a Heisman?

Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:23 am
Posted by Yintros
Bateon Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
590 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:23 am
Anonymous QB in his only four games against top 25 teams:
4 passing TDs, 4 INTs
3 rushing TDs
989 passing yds (avg of 247 per)
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24818 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:25 am to
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Anonymous QB in his only four games against top 25 teams:
4 passing TDs, 4 INTs
3 rushing TDs
989 passing yds (avg of 247 per)


Would depend on the rest of his stats and the stats of other players in consideration for the Heisman. Where is the other information so I can make an educated decision?
Posted by MJK16
Member since Jan 2013
191 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:25 am to
Murray or JFF?
Posted by parkjas2001
Gustav Fan Club: Consigliere
Member since Feb 2010
45000 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:25 am to
ONly after he gave me an autograph
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
1734 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:28 am to
quote:

Anonymous QB in his only four games against top 25 teams:
4 passing TDs, 4 INTs
3 rushing TDs
989 passing yds (avg of 247 per)


Im assuming this is Manziel from last year and yes I would because youre taking away 9-10 games of stats. Everyone plays cupcakes. Typically everyone struggles more against ranked teams than cupcakes. Don't hate JFF because he plays dominantly against cupcakes and just plays well against ranked teams
This post was edited on 9/12/13 at 9:30 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:30 am to
I should have given this thread a Heisman.
Posted by Yintros
Bateon Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
590 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:30 am to
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Would depend on the rest of his stats and the stats of other players in consideration for the Heisman. Where is the other information so I can make an educated decision?

Another QB in the running, in three games against top 25 teams:
6 TDs, 3 INTs
2 rushing TDs
255 passing yards per
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86429 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:31 am to
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Murray or JFF?


Murray has played far more than 4 ranked teams, and has thrown a shite ton more than 4 Tds.
Posted by parkjas2001
Gustav Fan Club: Consigliere
Member since Feb 2010
45000 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:32 am to
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Another QB in the running, in three games against top 25 teams:
6 TDs, 3 INTs
2 rushing TDs
255 passing yards per


Connor Shaw?
Posted by Yintros
Bateon Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
590 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:32 am to
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Im assuming this is Manziel from last year and yes I would because youre taking away 9-10 games of stats. Everyone plays cupcakes. Typically everyone struggles more against ranked teams than cupcakes. Don't hate JFF because he plays dominantly against cupcakes and just plays well against ranked teams

I know of other Heisman winners who actually raised their level of play against the better competition rather than racking up stats with a weak schedule.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55185 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:35 am to


how about the teams that were in the top 25 until Johnny went for a billion yards and a 100 td's on them?
Posted by deSandman
Member since Mar 2007
969 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:38 am to
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Anonymous QB in his only four games against top 25 teams:
4 passing TDs, 4 INTs
3 rushing TDs
989 passing yds (avg of 247 per)


Would you give it to a player who got 850 total yards, 6 TDs and 1 turnover in his last 2 games against top 15 teams?

I'm not a fan of Manziel, but 3 of those INTs came in one game, and you can't just leave off rushing yardage from the totals of a QB known for rushing.

He had not good games against UF and LSU, in the first half of the season.

Then around 350 total yards and 2 TDs and zero turnovers against Alabama and around 500 total yards and 4 TD's against OU.

This post was edited on 9/12/13 at 9:39 am
Posted by PortCityTiger82
Shreveport, LA
Member since Nov 2010
6564 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:39 am to
I call bullshite!! I haven't seen one game where Johnny had a billion yards!
Posted by PDWT12
Member since Sep 2012
35 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:42 am to
I gave it to him after he cleared your stadium in the first quarter.

This thread sucks. Try harder.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:43 am to
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Then around 350 total yards and 2 TDs and zero turnovers against Alabama and around 500 total yards and 4 TD's against OU.


Yeah did this OP not include the greatest performance in the history of bowl games?
Posted by OSqueal
Where ever the beer is
Member since Jan 2011
5379 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:44 am to
Does it matter. The Heisman is a popularity contest anyways.
Posted by jbond
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2012
4938 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:45 am to
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around 500 total yards and 4 TD's against OU.


Big 12 defense, no care.
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
1734 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:48 am to
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Big 12 defense, no care.


So literally the only games that matter are teams who are in the top 10 in total defense and scoring defense? Give me a break. Name me a player who faced 3 top 10 defense on the level of LSU, Florida, and Bama and performed better.
Posted by Motengator
Central Texas
Member since Feb 2013
1357 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:50 am to
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Does it matter. The Heisman is a popularity contest anyways.


Which is exactly why JFF could double his numbers this year and still not win it again!
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
1734 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:57 am to
How about these stats for a QB from SEC East: Facing Bama, Florida, and USCe

47-98 454 yards 0 TDs 6 INT
37 Rushes for -15 yards and 0 TDs
This post was edited on 9/12/13 at 9:58 am
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