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re: Will Tennessee be satisfied with a 6-6 record and bowl win this year?
Posted on 10/7/15 at 9:26 pm to rockytop627
Posted on 10/7/15 at 9:26 pm to rockytop627
Your once proud program.
Vol for life was once a thing to be proud of, now it's something that makes people feel bad for you
Vol for life was once a thing to be proud of, now it's something that makes people feel bad for you
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 9:30 pm to atlgator
You're the reason that literally EVERYONE has a bad opinion of gator fans.
And you're a liar too.
FWIW, people at the game were actually friendly, this time.
And you're a liar too.
FWIW, people at the game were actually friendly, this time.
Posted on 10/7/15 at 9:31 pm to Prof
Prof I really want to believe you. But I don't see other young, improving teams blow so many games and struggle this much to get over the hump, with extremely questionable coaching decisions to boot. Also, besides the run game and special teams, where can we definitively say we've improved from last year? In some areas (defense in particular) it actually seems like we've regressed.
This post was edited on 10/7/15 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 10/7/15 at 9:51 pm to rockytop627
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Prof I really want to believe you. But I don't see other young, improving teams blow so many games and struggle this much to get over the hump, with extremely questionable decisions to boot. Also, besides the run game and special teams, where can we definitively say we've improved from last year?
That's pretty much where we've improved as it is where our OL has improved (they've learned to run block a bit although they still can't pass block worth a damn). Right now, we can run the ball and do so very effectively. Yes, we've had bad calls but overall the offense has been effective despite a pitiful passing game that we all know should be better than it is.
FWIW, I think Azzani's head is on the chopping block if the passing game doesn't improve. There's been one constant despite playing three different QBs and that's underperforming WRs who aren't running proper routes, aren't getting separation, aren't open when the QB needs them and/or aren't hanging on to balls they should catch and generally are playing like shite when some of them should absolutely be playing like stars. That's on Coach Z. the talent is there but they aren't improving. He was promoted to passing game coordinator in the offseason and yet the WRs have so underperformed that CBJ is involved in the WRs this week the way Debord has been babysitting Mahoney and the OL.
I can't really blame the coaches for injuries to Gaulden, Maggitt, and others but the injuries we've suffered have definitely been at positions of need and have happened to several of our playmakers. I also think Mahoney has been dealt an unfair hand with this OL *but* that OL should be fairly decent next season when the younger guys who are getting experience now become starters. Take this week - Chance Hall is likely going to start at RT with Kendrick injured and he may just take that spot and never look back.
Fix the passing game and this team takes off. Get our young guys on defense more experience and this team takes off. The big question for 2016 will be the secondary, imo, especially if Cam turns pro and Martin doesn't pick up (but remember Martin missed practice with an injury but he is starting to come along).
As for right now, run the ball and run it some more. But for God's sake find a way for some of our talented WRs to actually catch the ball - I don't care how they do it but it has to happen or Coach Z. needs to go.
This post was edited on 10/7/15 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 10/7/15 at 9:54 pm to accnodefense
The dumb sunshine pampers will be
Posted on 10/7/15 at 10:11 pm to Prof
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This. My fellow Vol fans need to listen to this but most won't since fans get so emotional about their own programs at times that we become blind to what's in front of us. The problem isn't this season which in reality has shown a whole lot of progress, albeit very painful progress, but that we've been rebuilding for 8 years. That's not CBJ's fault but he's getting the heat of all those prior years of mediocrity and/or failure by others.
There's criticism to be had but we are largely on the right track. It's just painful to watch a good/talented team learn how to win.
Butch made some bad decisions, don't get me wrong, but the team is also exceptionally young like our own. The only difference is that our defense isn't that young at all.
The talent is all there for picking next year, and sure, people are just going to say: Dumpster fire, hurdur, Tennessee sucks etc. etc.. but like I said: They played way, way, way better than Ole Miss did against us defensively and offensively.
They'll go bowling this year, and they'll probably get an upset.
Oklahoma is a decent team, lost in overtime. Lost to Florida by 1 and lost to Arkansas by 4 -- as a Gator fan who watched worse losses to FCS programs and absolute blowouts by teams like Missouri -- if you're in games, that's enough.
It just sucks to go through this period, and we say it every year but: Next year Tennessee will be better, the dogs might be declining and Missouri is on a rebuilding year this year, possibly next year.
Posted on 10/7/15 at 10:12 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Can't wait until Botch is fired.
Posted on 10/7/15 at 10:30 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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You almost won against some good programs. For what it's worth, Arky slipped up but they've played everyone really fricking hard after that.
You had us but we managed to stumble our way into a win, but it's probably because your team is young.
You've led every game so far -- a year under your belt and you guys are definitely back. 100%. You haven't been blown out and you had a chance to win every game -- that's more than we could ask for with Muschamp.
Just a little more patience, because I think Tennessee is going in the right direction for what it's worth. A lot of people will just give Vols fans shite, but really, Tennessee gave us way more of a game than Ole Miss, and that's saying something
Posted on 10/7/15 at 10:35 pm to accnodefense
They at least have to win one extra game than last year, but man nothing has gone right for that team.
They also need to get rid of that OC.
They also need to get rid of that OC.
Posted on 10/7/15 at 10:49 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Butch made some bad decisions, don't get me wrong, but the team is also exceptionally young like our own. The only difference is that our defense isn't that young at all.
The talent is all there for picking next year, and sure, people are just going to say: Dumpster fire, hurdur, Tennessee sucks etc. etc.. but like I said: They played way, way, way better than Ole Miss did against us defensively and offensively.
They'll go bowling this year, and they'll probably get an upset.
Oklahoma is a decent team, lost in overtime. Lost to Florida by 1 and lost to Arkansas by 4 -- as a Gator fan who watched worse losses to FCS programs and absolute blowouts by teams like Missouri -- if you're in games, that's enough.
It just sucks to go through this period, and we say it every year but: Next year Tennessee will be better, the dogs might be declining and Missouri is on a rebuilding year this year, possibly next year.
This. I don't think any fan imagined in the preseason that by the time the Arkansas game rolled around we'd be tasking 2 true freshman DTs, and 1 true freshman LB with stopping Arkansas' ginormous OL and run game. Or that we'd also be playing a true freshman DE in Maggitt's place. And hell to be fair they did a fairly good job of it given the task they were faced with but young guys are not what you want to have to rely on in tight games. Young guys get lost in the moment, they make mistakes whereas veteran players are usually past that point. They are typically the ones who come up with clutch plays when you need it.
Our defense went from fairly young but experienced to completely inexperienced fairly quickly with injuries and really a complete lack of depth at the top -- ALL of our talent is with our young guys. Our upper classmen barely exist and the ones that do exist only a handful actually contribute and the difference in talent level between them and the younger guys is enormous.
As for the coaching decisions, yeah we've had some bad decisions but we've also had some overall good planning and at some point players have to execute as well and that's where I think our youth and depth issues cost us when matched against other good teams like UF or OU. Right now, I'm most concerned with our OL and WRs right now as they need to be fixed this season to give us more than one dimension. I'm not sure what can be done for our defense except to hope some of the players we're being forced to play start doing a better job.
I am however very pleased with the progress I've seen with our two true frosh DTs - McKenzie and Tuttle are really starting to shine and they will help win us some games in the future. The same is true for our true frosh MLB, Kirkland. The talent he possesses is off the charts and he's growing with more and more experience. I also think we'll be more than ok at DE next year but we have to get Phillips back soon to get him more experience.
Posted on 10/7/15 at 10:55 pm to SonofDye
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the youngest team in the history of all football? Sure I'd count that as a huge brick in building back.
The real Butch had a team almost as young:
Posted on 10/7/15 at 10:59 pm to Datbayoubengal
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They at least have to win one extra game than last year, but man nothing has gone right for that team.
They also need to get rid of that OC.
I don't think it's the OC but rather our WR/Passing Game Coordinator. That's been our weakspot all year long and truthfully ever since he's been here. This year there's just no excuse for our WRs not being up to par despite the lousy pass blocking and short amount of time Dobbs has had to throw -- the WRs have flat out sucked and they have the talent to be a billion times better than that.
Coach Azzani recruits incredibly but once he gets these stud WRs they under perform and they've consistently underperformed for 2 and half seasons. Something isn't right there.
This post was edited on 10/7/15 at 11:03 pm
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