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Will Kentucky and Mizzou Football Unionize?
Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:14 pm
As the only two northern states in the SEC, it is possible-
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There were two states from the SEC footprint that were not mentioned in the list above; Kentucky and Missouri are not right-to-work states. They could be the first SEC schools — aside from private Vanderbilt — face a union or union-like challenge.
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:14 pm to texasaggie08
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only two northern states in the SEC
Florida says hey
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:14 pm to texasaggie08
Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:22 pm to KCM0Tiger
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Florida says hey
No it doesn't. Florida is a right to work state.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:28 pm to texasaggie08
Once a union is already established it's not hard for right-to-work employees to join. Kroger is a union store and you're automatically in when hired. Many others are too, including one of TN's auto plants (not the VW but it too will eventually unionize despite the last failing).
What right-to-work states do is make it nearly impossible to start the union from scratch. But if a union is already started and your employer already has it or your employee group fit the requirements to join a bigger group it's not as legally hard. It's harder in terms of anti-union sentiment than anything else.
What right-to-work states do is make it nearly impossible to start the union from scratch. But if a union is already started and your employer already has it or your employee group fit the requirements to join a bigger group it's not as legally hard. It's harder in terms of anti-union sentiment than anything else.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:33 pm to Prof
Are you sure. Kentucky is pretty anti-union as a whole. Let's say, Obama did not get too many votes.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:44 pm to WildcatMike
^Lexington is but Eastern Kentucky is pretty pro-union. Harlan County fought a freaking war to unionize - complete with bloodshed and shots fired. Actually, they've fought many.
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A Song by Florence Patton Reece
Come all of you good workers
Good news to you I'll tell
Of how that good old union
Has come in here to dwell
Chorus
Which side are you on?
Which side are you on?
Which side are you on?
Which side are you on?
My daddy was a miner
And I'm a miner's son
And I'll stick with the union
Till every battle's won
They say in Harlan County
There are no neutrals there
You'll either be a union man
Or a thug for J.H. Blair
Oh, workers can you stand it?
Oh, tell me how you can
Will you be a lousy scab
Or will you be a man?
Don't scab for the bosses
Don't listen to their lies
Us poor folks haven't got a chance
Unless we organize
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:48 pm to Prof
Being a non right to work state is pretty Big 10 if you ask me....
Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:50 pm to Prof
Actually, back in the day. But today not so today. Majority of mines still opened are non union. Toyota plant is non union. They tried to unionize Kroger stores with no success.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:56 pm to Prof
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Many others are too, including one of TN's auto plants (not the VW but it too will eventually unionize despite the last failing).
frick the union at the VW plant. The unions were real pricks to the VW dealerships when the plant was being built because they thought they weren't going to get in.
They did a lot to hurt the retail end trying to force their way in to Chattanooga.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 1:57 pm to WildcatMike
Kroger is pre-Unionized. I don't know how they could 'fail.'
Posted on 3/27/14 at 2:02 pm to Prof
FWIW, the real question should be: will public school student-athletes petition to be declared employees? Until and unless that happens, it doesn't matter if a state is right to work or not. It's the employee declaration of this ruling and whether or not the legal logic is accepted elsewhere on which all of this hinges.
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 3/27/14 at 3:15 pm to texasaggie08
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As the only two northern states in the SEC
This from a guy in a Mexican state.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 3:19 pm to WildcatMike
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They tried to unionize Kroger stores with no success.
Kroger is union and has been for quite some time
Posted on 3/27/14 at 3:21 pm to texasaggie08
Not unless Missouri becomes occupied by northern troops, which is what happened the first time.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 3:28 pm to texasaggie08
Yes and then we comin fo yo southern belles.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 3:30 pm to Prof
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Many others are too, including one of TN's auto plants
I know that Spring Hill is UAW...can you name a GM plant that isn't UAW? There are only 2 other plants in Tennessee (Nissan and Volkswagen), and they aren't.
Remember that Nissan has operated a non-union plant in Smyrna since 1983...so the writing isn't on the wall for Volkswagen, yet.
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 3/27/14 at 3:37 pm to madmaxvol
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Remember that Nissan has operated a non-union plant in Smyrna since 1983...so the writing isn't on the wall for Volkswagen, yet.
Volkswagen already voted against unionizing, but the UAW will challenge the results if they aren't already. If that doesn't work they'll just keep trying until they're in the factory whether the workers want it or not.
It's pretty funny that they didn't get in to Chattanooga because Volkswagen has got a pretty friendly stance on unions at a corporate level. Then again, the non-American labor unions tend to have a less adversarial relationship with their employing corporation than the American labor unions and UAW specifically.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 4:44 pm to Mizzeaux
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The unions were real pricks to the VW dealerships when the plant was being built because they thought they weren't going to get in.
They did a lot to hurt the retail end trying to force their way in to Chattanooga.
This. All of this.
The UAW will not take no for an answer at the Chattanooga plant. They've contested the vote, and they're going to keep fighting it until they scare the shite outta VW corporate. There's no chance in hell, after all of the snafu here about the unionization, that the plant expands and gets the new SUV line. That's going straight to Mexico. Had the question been a simple "Wanna unionize?" "Nope." It could have been here. But now that it's become so militant and political, there's no way.
Corporate VW was friendly with the union because they really didn't know what they were getting in bed with when it comes to the UAW. Labor unions in Germany aren't nearly as political or adversarial, as you already pointed out.
Posted on 3/27/14 at 4:47 pm to RoyalAir
Well if you are going to say all that you should also point out that the UAW had a comfortable lead and then all the right wing PAC money came in and Sen Pritchert said VW told him if they unionized they would not get a new line which VW had to politely point out was a lie and after all this they barely lost.
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