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Why was Spurrier unable to bring the air raid offense he had at Florida to USCe?
Posted on 10/3/15 at 3:43 am
Posted on 10/3/15 at 3:43 am
My guess is after he got out of D.C. he stopped caring as much as he did when he was in Gainesville and had the chip on his shoulder. It seems that the NFL really took some fight out of the OBC.
Yes I realize Florida had elite talent in the 90s, but South Carolina gets their fair share of playmakers too, and SC as a state has a ton of high end D1 players. Plus, he was the mastermind behind the attack, so really it's on him that they haven't put up similar numbers, imo.
Yes I realize Florida had elite talent in the 90s, but South Carolina gets their fair share of playmakers too, and SC as a state has a ton of high end D1 players. Plus, he was the mastermind behind the attack, so really it's on him that they haven't put up similar numbers, imo.
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Posted on 10/3/15 at 3:50 am to Honest Tune
Well for one he had Marcus Lattimore who was a stud running back before he got injured.
Posted on 10/3/15 at 3:55 am to DirtyLeggz
Great player, great person. Make no mistake, he also had stud running backs at Florida too. That air raid though... coaches legitimately feared that shite and he downright embarrassed teams. And he loved every second of it. I really think the NFL took "it" out of him. That was his first taste of failure.
Posted on 10/3/15 at 3:58 am to Honest Tune
True but did he have the talent at QB at SC like at Florida?
Posted on 10/3/15 at 4:03 am to DirtyLeggz
No, but that falls back on his recruiting or lack thereof. He had decent quarterbacks at UF, but his wide receivers were the difference makers for those offenses. Honestly, he had some meh quarterbacks at Florida if we are being honest here.
Posted on 10/3/15 at 4:13 am to Honest Tune
Because what he did at UF was something new to the SEC. Defenses always catch up with Offenses, unless a rule change gives them an advantage.
Posted on 10/3/15 at 4:14 am to Honest Tune
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SC as a state has a ton of high end D1 players
Not really.The state is lucky to produce 50+ P5 players every year.Guys like Lattimore and AJ Green are few and far between in the palmetto state.
Posted on 10/3/15 at 4:17 am to Honest Tune
He didnt start out with Lattimore at USC....so thats not the reason. Things change, defenses usually catch up with offenses sooner or later.
Remember that back in the mid-late 1970s even Bear Bryant ran the triple option wishbone which had sweep the nation for a half dozen or so years...except Ga Tech which is in time lock. Bryants wishbone years produced a NC. Why was his wishbone so successful? It really wasnt...but his defense was salty as hell. I saw his wishbone team close and personal in 1979...a NC season. AU, UF ran the wishbone also but didnt have the defense.
Spurrier never was one who liked recruiting, it took him away from golf. It was guys like Ron Zook who would do all the heavy lifting and he was one of the best in the business back then. Spurrier was a gameday coach who could beat you with Xs & Os.
Remember that back in the mid-late 1970s even Bear Bryant ran the triple option wishbone which had sweep the nation for a half dozen or so years...except Ga Tech which is in time lock. Bryants wishbone years produced a NC. Why was his wishbone so successful? It really wasnt...but his defense was salty as hell. I saw his wishbone team close and personal in 1979...a NC season. AU, UF ran the wishbone also but didnt have the defense.
Spurrier never was one who liked recruiting, it took him away from golf. It was guys like Ron Zook who would do all the heavy lifting and he was one of the best in the business back then. Spurrier was a gameday coach who could beat you with Xs & Os.
Posted on 10/3/15 at 4:18 am to JohnForney
True, but when he quit Florida his offense was still beating the breaks off SEC defenses.
Ok, maybe compared to Georgia or Louisiana, SC isn't as much of a talent ridden state, but Spurrier could get in any living room in the country then and probably now.
Maybe the greens at Augusta are just that fricking lush, ha.
Ok, maybe compared to Georgia or Louisiana, SC isn't as much of a talent ridden state, but Spurrier could get in any living room in the country then and probably now.
Maybe the greens at Augusta are just that fricking lush, ha.
Posted on 10/3/15 at 4:20 am to reel_gator8
I think we can agree he'd rather be golfing.
Also, with regards to your Bear/wishbone/defense comment, I have overlooked the fact that the defenses he had at Florida were full of NFL talent as well. That made for a great offense undoubtedly.
Also, with regards to your Bear/wishbone/defense comment, I have overlooked the fact that the defenses he had at Florida were full of NFL talent as well. That made for a great offense undoubtedly.
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Posted on 10/3/15 at 4:29 am to Honest Tune
After 1996 he never won more than 10 games in a season at UF. This is Florida, loads of talent. Like at Bama, 10 wins a season is about "average". A decent coach should be able to win 10 games a year at either school. There are going to be ups and downs, but on average. Spurrier was a great coach, and he put Florida where they should be. I also think his time is up and he'll retire after this year. Bryant looked a lot older than Spurrier does now, but Spurrier is older than Bryant when he retired.
Posted on 10/3/15 at 4:33 am to JohnForney
Yes I will agree with you on that, seems like it's the end of the line for him.
Bear was a heavy drinker... he aged at an accelerated rate, ha.
At this juncture, do you think Spurrier is leaving SC in better shape than he found it?
Bear was a heavy drinker... he aged at an accelerated rate, ha.
At this juncture, do you think Spurrier is leaving SC in better shape than he found it?
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Posted on 10/3/15 at 4:35 am to Honest Tune
Not to mention non-filtered Chesterfield's. He worked hard and partied hard. Sounds like a fun guy! 
Posted on 10/3/15 at 4:39 am to JohnForney
Not to mention, Spurrier makes 4 million a year, that'll make one lighter in the stress department, but also complacent.
Bear never sniffed that kind of coin. But I would have LOVED to have sat at a deer camp table with ole Bear, a bottle of good bourbon, and just let the shite fly.
Bear never sniffed that kind of coin. But I would have LOVED to have sat at a deer camp table with ole Bear, a bottle of good bourbon, and just let the shite fly.
Posted on 10/3/15 at 5:08 am to JohnForney
quote:Only 11 game seasons then too. So at most there were 13 games.
After 1996 he never won more than 10 games in a season at UF.
Posted on 10/3/15 at 5:11 am to spslayto
He missed two great opportunities for national championships in 2000 and 2001, mainly because Miami had an NFL roster top to bottom and handled their business accordingly.
Posted on 10/3/15 at 5:40 am to Honest Tune
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At this juncture, do you think Spurrier is leaving SC in better shape than he found it?
I don't see how anyone can disagree with the notion that he did. 9–5 and a division title, followed by three straight 11–2 seasons? That's respectable work at any school, especially one that recorded an 0–11 campaign in just the previous decade with a NC winning coach.
The past couple of years have been disappointing, but 7–6 isn't exactly pathetic, and South Carolina is now in people's minds as a winning program.
Posted on 10/3/15 at 5:52 am to VagueMessage
Yea, that's pretty much how I view it as well. They better damn well not whiff when they hire Spurrier's successor.
Cutcliffe or Tuberville would make great, safe hires, but I bet they go for an up-and-comer.
Cutcliffe or Tuberville would make great, safe hires, but I bet they go for an up-and-comer.
This post was edited on 10/3/15 at 5:54 am
Posted on 10/3/15 at 5:57 am to Honest Tune
There's no doubt he's leaving them in a better place. Before OBC, USC was historically worse than even us.
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Posted on 10/3/15 at 6:04 am to UKWildcats
No doubt. Holtz had achieved a decent measure of success before Spurrier, won some bowl games against Ohio State I believe. The wheels were pointed in the right direction when they hired OBC.
But yes, SC had some lean, lean years in the 80s and 90s. Somehow they always packed that stadium out then though!
But yes, SC had some lean, lean years in the 80s and 90s. Somehow they always packed that stadium out then though!
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