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Why is this Mississippi State team so bad?

Posted on 1/9/16 at 4:04 pm
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 4:04 pm
You have two four year starters in Ware and Sword. Ready is an experienced PG. Newman a talented scorer.

I know there's not a lot of depth, but still, it seems like this team should be better than they are. What's the deal?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 4:06 pm to
Because gator fans are pieces of shite coated shite with shite filling.




Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90489 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 4:09 pm to
Because they still aren't very talented as a whole. They don't know how to win honestly...it'll be a couple years when we get howlands recruits in the system before we really improve
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 4:09 pm to
upvoted
Posted by TigerTalker16
Columbia,MO
Member since Apr 2015
11533 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 4:10 pm to
Still better than Mizzou.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40949 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 4:11 pm to
It is perplexing to me too. They are much more talented than Tennessee for example, but watching them you would think they are playing with a very very depleted roster.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37295 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 4:11 pm to
Thanks for the jinx
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14094 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 4:11 pm to
We have no talent back. Ware is the only player from last year that has improved. Our best freshman is Weatherspoon- he's actually quite good. Newman has a ways to go.

Rick Ray came very close to sinking our program with the players he got.
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13454 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

Rick Ray came very close to sinking our program with the players he got.
Sword, Ware, and Thomas were all originally Stans guys.

Ready and Zuppardo are the only Ray guys still there. Guess you could count Weatherspoon.

Edit: forgot Daniels
This post was edited on 1/9/16 at 4:20 pm
Posted by Bignastypig59
Memphis
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 1/9/16 at 4:14 pm to
keeping zone we shoot the ball good today
Posted by Robert Goulet
Member since Jan 2013
9999 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 4:15 pm to
Ben Howland plays a terrible brand of basketball imo. That fricker can recruit though.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68439 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 4:20 pm to
Because they aren't as talented as their other opponents. Sword and Ward are experienced leaders but if you don't have talent that can only take you so far.
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13454 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 4:24 pm to
I'd venture to say they're more talented than the team they're playing right now.

This was a team picked to finish in the upper half of the conference by many before the start of the season. The "they have no talent" narrative started after everyone realized how bad they are.
This post was edited on 1/9/16 at 4:25 pm
Posted by ChargerDog91
Member since May 2012
4394 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

I know there's not a lot of depth, but still, it seems like this team should be better than they are. What's the deal?


You're dealing with trying to get a team full of players use to losing to close out ball games and buy into what you're wanting to do, it's a tough road. Malik is definitely not living up to the hype. He's getting better, but a top 10 player is supposed to be doing more than he is. Sword has regressed a ton playing second fiddle to someone else. He tries to force too much, I'm assuming cause he feels he has to make the extra play to prove himself. Ware has leaps and bounds better than he has ever been. It's perplexing to me how we can't play defense, when that's all we could do the past 3 years.
This post was edited on 1/9/16 at 4:27 pm
Posted by AllbyMyRelf
Virginia
Member since Nov 2014
3319 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 4:25 pm to
Anyone who picked us to be in the upper half overestimated the effect that the Howland hire would have in the first year.
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
9405 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 4:26 pm to
How and why Rick Ray was hired is still the question. The 2nd assistant at freakin Clemson was the best we could do? Clemson basketball? Might be the worst hire in MSU athletic history. Yes, worse than Croom.
This post was edited on 1/9/16 at 4:27 pm
Posted by Ansu Sesay
Omnipresent
Member since Dec 2014
812 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 4:27 pm to
Y'all were the ones saying that, not us.
Posted by AllbyMyRelf
Virginia
Member since Nov 2014
3319 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 4:29 pm to
I thought we'd be better than we are, and I think we'll get better through the season, but my other post still stands.
Posted by lefty08
Not in Auburn or Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
5575 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 4:30 pm to
It's because the media slobber over freshman for the most part. Most thought getting Newman would propel them to the top half the conference, it just hasn't gelled yet. This team isn't horrible and will get better with time
Posted by msudawg1200
Central Mississippi
Member since Jun 2014
9405 posts
Posted on 1/9/16 at 4:32 pm to
I never said that, but I know a many a State fan that thought we'd be NCAA bound. I thought 14-15 wins would be a success, but I don't see us getting close to that. More like 11 wins. We'll compete in two years.
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