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Why is Dan Mullen not considered a hot coaching commodity.

Posted on 11/6/15 at 5:52 pm
Posted by Grovewater
Member since Jul 2015
249 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 5:52 pm
The dude has consistently won more in Starkville than anybody else has. In all likelihood he's about to have them 8-4, or 9-3 again, and he's done it at a time when the SEC West has been dominant.

He does more with less talent relative to their competition than any other coach in the nation. He can't recruit to Starkville because it's virtually impossible to get top level talent not from Mississippi to go there, but still he manages to take the leftovers of other schools and piece together a competitive team. He's an incredible evaluator and developer of talent. Almost comically better at it than Hugh Freeze.

He was an offensive disciple of Urban Meyer, and he seems to balance good relationships with players without compromising his authority.

He's good with the media, and he seems like a good man.

I don't understand why nobody is throwing this guy's name around for the Georgia job, or the Penn State/Texas/Oklahoma jobs if they come open.

Imagine what he could do at a place where he could actually get top level talent.....in my opinion he's one of the best coaches in the SEC.

This post was edited on 11/6/15 at 10:50 pm
Posted by Rebel Land Shark
Member since Jul 2013
30162 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 5:53 pm to
We don't have a board for this
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38209 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 5:56 pm to
He's going to VT after this season
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22454 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 5:57 pm to
He really should be, tbh.
Posted by ChiTownBammer
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
1127 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 5:57 pm to
Valid points.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
10325 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 5:58 pm to
In seven years he is below .500 in the SEC. He is below .400 against the SECW. How does that translate into a roaring success? He has just taken a cellar dweller up to mediocrity status.
Posted by WhitewaterDawg
Tennessee
Member since Aug 2011
7233 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 5:58 pm to
HUE FREEZE BEST EVAR
Posted by tigerfan5803
Premium Member
Member since Dec 2005
4521 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 5:58 pm to
You're not wrong about any of that. I thought he would be mentioned a lot with all the openings.
Posted by pivey14
In Your Head
Member since Mar 2012
15445 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 5:59 pm to
A lot of good points. Solid thread OP. Have an upvote.
Posted by Hogwarts
Arkansas, USA
Member since Sep 2015
18043 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 6:00 pm to
I think that Mullen is a proven good coach. What he has done at State is impressive.
Posted by ChiTownBammer
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
1127 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 6:00 pm to
quote:

He has just taken a cellar dweller up to mediocrity status.



So he out-Hugh-Freezed Hugh Freeze?
Posted by MSU5
Memphis
Member since Aug 2011
3411 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 6:02 pm to
Omg can we please trade coaches? I want State to be shut out, in back to back seasons.. Oh yeah, and I want to lose to an ooc school 90 miles up the highway
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 6:03 pm to
Because he cups his man tits
Posted by Grovewater
Member since Jul 2015
249 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 6:08 pm to
quote:

In seven years he is below .500 in the SEC. He is below .400 against the SECW. How does that translate into a roaring success? He has just taken a cellar dweller up to mediocrity status.


Take out his first two years, where his own recruits weren't developed yet, he's over .500, which is impressive because of where he's done it.

Mississippi State is the poorest University of all power 5 Universities by endowment

Mississippi State has the lowest average alumni earnings of anyone in the SEC

Starkville is consistently voted the least attractive college town in the SEC

Mississippi State is ranked last in the SEC by Academic quality, and 2nd from last among all P5 teams.

The point:
He's taken a program with extremely limited resources, who's fans have historically considered just getting bowl eligible to be a good season, and he has made above average a new norm, which to me is more impressive than winning 10 games a year consistently at a school like Texas, Florida, or Ohio State

Again, has he built the same quality rocket-ship that Nick Saban has built at Alabama? No, but what he has managed to build is just as impressive in some ways when you consider he was only given duct tape, plywood, kerosine, and Elmer's Glue. Whereas others have way better resources.
This post was edited on 11/6/15 at 6:27 pm
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12506 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 6:09 pm to
I don't think he is talked about because he hasn't left MSU yet. I think there is a reason he hasn't got a big job yet and would be surprised if he got One.
Posted by ChiTownBammer
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
1127 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 6:09 pm to
quote:

Take out his first two years, where his own recruits weren't developed yet, he's over .500, which is impressive because of where he's done it.

Mississippi State is the poorest University of all power 5 Universities by endowment

Mississippi State has the lowest average alumni earnings of anyone in the SEC

Starkville is consistently voted the least attractive college town in the SEC

Mississippi State is ranked last in the SEC by Academic quality, and 2nd from last among all P5 teams.

The point:
He's taken a program who has consistently considered just getting bowl eligible to be a good season, he has made above average a new norm, which to me is more impressive than winning 10 games a year consistently at a school like Texas, Florida, or Ohio State

Again, has he built the same quality rocket-ship that Nick Saban has built at Alabama? No, but what he has built is just as impressive in some ways when you consider he was even able to built a rocket-ship out of duct tape, plywood, and Elmer's Glue.


Good lord. Who's side are you on?
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51238 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 6:11 pm to
If Georgia opens up, I think you may hear his name mentioned for that job.
Posted by pivey14
In Your Head
Member since Mar 2012
15445 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 6:11 pm to
quote:

Take out his first two years, where his own recruits weren't developed yet, he's over .500, which is impressive because of where he's done it.

Mississippi State is the poorest University of all power 5 Universities by endowment

Mississippi State has the lowest average alumni earnings of anyone in the SEC

Starkville is consistently voted the least attractive college town in the SEC

Mississippi State is ranked last in the SEC by Academic quality, and 2nd from last among all P5 teams.

The point:
He's taken a program who has consistently considered just getting bowl eligible to be a good season, and he has made above average a new norm, which to me is more impressive than winning 10 games a year consistently at a school like Texas, Florida, or Ohio State

Again, has he built the same quality rocket-ship that Nick Saban has built at Alabama? No, but what he has built is just as impressive in some ways when you consider he was even able to build a rocket-ship at all out of duct tape, plywood, and Elmer's Glue.


Yep, you're a psychopath
This post was edited on 11/6/15 at 6:12 pm
Posted by WhitewaterDawg
Tennessee
Member since Aug 2011
7233 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 6:12 pm to
Now I see.
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
7823 posts
Posted on 11/6/15 at 6:17 pm to
He pulled a Beuce Pearl and turned in another school for alleged recruiting violations that turned out not to be true.

Jeremy Foley has avoided him like the plague. despite success at State and ties to UF, he's twice been passed over. That speaks volumes about what he's like to work with.
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