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Why does CFP weight matchups based on rankings at time of game?
Posted on 11/2/15 at 10:08 am
Posted on 11/2/15 at 10:08 am
Alabama gets much more credit for blowing out a top 10 Georgia than Florida does for blowing out a 5-2 Georgia.
Michigan State beat a mediocre Oregon team but it'll be treated like a victory over TCU.
What would it take for the committee to be scrapped and us to go back to BCS style rankings?
Michigan State beat a mediocre Oregon team but it'll be treated like a victory over TCU.
What would it take for the committee to be scrapped and us to go back to BCS style rankings?
Posted on 11/2/15 at 10:09 am to joshnorris14
chubb and michel were healthy for the bama game while not for the florida game. you dont think that should be considered?
also i read that they dont look at the ap poll so i dont know where you are getting info about them looking at rankings from time of play.
also i read that they dont look at the ap poll so i dont know where you are getting info about them looking at rankings from time of play.
This post was edited on 11/2/15 at 10:12 am
Posted on 11/2/15 at 10:10 am to joshnorris14
There is no logical reason for Alabama to be ranked ahead of Florida based on the resume to this point in the season. But the media's rebuttal will simply be "But it's Alabama." And they will repeat it until you stop challenging it because they are lazy thinkers at best or outright shills at worst.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 10:12 am to geauxnavybeatbama
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chubb and michel were healthy for the bama game while not for the florida game. you dont think that should be considered?
I get that, but Georgia's problem isn't with their RBs, they have terrible QB and WR play.
Would Georgia have done a bit better with Chubb? Certainly. Would it have mattered? No
Posted on 11/2/15 at 10:14 am to ProjectP2294
People who complain about rankings mid way through the season are the worst. Boo hoo. All that matters is how teams are ranked after the conference championship game. This thread will be completely irrelevant once LSU loses this weekend, or if Alabama doesn't win.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 10:16 am to joshnorris14
I think they do the opposite. It's a week by week analysis of the teams. Long even said as much last year. Overall record is important yes but where they differ from the BCS is how did that team look this week. The problem with this is the same thing everybody was so happy about. It doesn't start until November. Too many games have been played by that time. Remember how they kept shuffling the top 4 towards the end of the season last year. Bama would be 4 then 2 then back to 4 then to 1. Just based on that week. At the end of the day just get in that top 4 and it works itself out. There is no way to do it right with 4 teams and 5 P5 conferences. You gotta go to 8 or 10.
All conference champs
3-5 at large teams
You can't just have conference champs because all conferences aren't created equally. It's why basketball has at-larges.
What the college football pundits have to understand is you either have a playoff or don't have one. There is no way to make it somewhere in the middle and be prudent for all deserving teams.
All conference champs
3-5 at large teams
You can't just have conference champs because all conferences aren't created equally. It's why basketball has at-larges.
What the college football pundits have to understand is you either have a playoff or don't have one. There is no way to make it somewhere in the middle and be prudent for all deserving teams.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 10:17 am to Patton
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This thread will be completely irrelevant once LSU beats Alabama arse this weekend!
FIFY hoss!
Posted on 11/2/15 at 10:21 am to ProjectP2294
quote:Well lets take this into consideration:
There is no logical reason for Alabama to be ranked ahead of Florida based on the resume to this point in the season. But the media's rebuttal will simply be "But it's Alabama." And they will repeat it until you stop challenging it because they are lazy thinkers at best or outright shills at worst.
As the LSU poster stated above, Bama played Georgia in Athens with Georgia being full strength
Bama lost to Ole Miss at home by 6 while turning the ball over 5 times. Florida blew Ole Miss out with the Rebs turning it over themselves.
The Tennessee game is a wash, but Bama played Tennessee with the Vols coming off a bye.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 10:26 am to joshnorris14
quote:With Chubb Georgia beats Florida very similar to the way LSU did. Georgia would be a shoe in for Atlanta.
I get that, but Georgia's problem isn't with their RBs, they have terrible QB and WR play.
Would Georgia have done a bit better with Chubb? Certainly. Would it have mattered? No
Posted on 11/2/15 at 10:33 am to joshnorris14
Did Bama beat a better Georgia team than Florida? Sure. Georgia is better with Chubb and Michel healthy. But was Georgia really that good of a team with both of those guys? Terrible QB and WRs. Bad defense. They both beat Georgia badly so that shouldn't matter.
However, Florida's one loss is much better than Bama's one loss. On the road in Death Valley against a top 4 team is a better loss than at home to a pretty good Ole Miss.
However, Florida's one loss is much better than Bama's one loss. On the road in Death Valley against a top 4 team is a better loss than at home to a pretty good Ole Miss.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 10:51 am to joshnorris14
They definitely shouldn't consider the teams ranked at the time they played. The committee ranks the top 10.. preseason media rankings should have no bearing.
They were predicting Auburn to win the SEC
They were predicting Auburn to win the SEC
Posted on 11/2/15 at 11:15 am to joshnorris14
None of it really matters at this point. UF will be in the playoff if we win out.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 11:23 am to MontyFranklyn
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Bama lost to Ole Miss at home by 6 while turning the ball over 5 times. Florida blew Ole Miss out with the Rebs turning it over themselves.
On what planet does this matter?
The ability to create turnovers and/or not turn the ball over yourself is a hallmark of a great team.
Only in the minds of Alabama fans does turning it over 5 times and losing mean you are the better team.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 11:25 am to joshnorris14
The only good thing about the current system is that it entails four teams as opposed to two.
As far as methodology for selecting teams for inclusion in each respective system, the BCS was infinitely better than the selection committee.
As far as methodology for selecting teams for inclusion in each respective system, the BCS was infinitely better than the selection committee.
Posted on 11/2/15 at 11:26 am to joshnorris14
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Alabama gets much more credit for blowing out a top 10 Georgia than Florida does for blowing out a 5-2 Georgia.
- You played an injury ravaged UGA.
- Alabama played a full powered UGA.
Don't let these facts stop your agenda
Posted on 11/2/15 at 11:37 am to YStar
Injury ramped? So Florida isn't missing a five star lber and put starting Qb? If we had Grier we beat Georgia by 40...
Posted on 11/2/15 at 11:40 am to bmy
quote:i disagree. it definitely should be in the equation. aside from injuries, it is totally different playing the #3 team as opposed to the #17 team. teams treat the rankings totally different, even if they're not supposed to.
They definitely shouldn't consider the teams ranked at the time they played
Posted on 11/2/15 at 3:34 pm to bfniii
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i disagree. it definitely should be in the equation. aside from injuries, it is totally different playing the #3 team as opposed to the #17 team. teams treat the rankings totally different, even if they're not supposed to.
highly ranked to start the season is in no way relevant
see: auburn
Posted on 11/2/15 at 4:07 pm to slackster
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Why does CFP weight matchups based on rankings at time of game?
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Bama lost to Ole Miss at home by 6 while turning the ball over 5 times. Florida blew Ole Miss out with the Rebs turning it over themselves.
On what planet does this matter?
The ability to create turnovers and/or not turn the ball over yourself is a hallmark of a great team.
Only in the minds of Alabama fans does turning it over 5 times and losing mean you are the better team.
For someone claiming Stanford, even with the LSU sig, you're not very bright. We lost. But we aren't better because we turned it over and only lost by 6. We are better because we are better and had an incredibly shitty game. It happens. It may cost us a playoff spot. I think most Bama fans are trying to say that even though we played that badly, we still only lost by 6. It was easily the worst regular season performance we've had under a Saban team (since 08, in a regular season game). Yet, we could have won it, and might have if not for the helmet TD. But shite happens in football.
But if you really can't see the difference between Bama/Ole Miss right now, then you're going to be very disappointed Saturday.
This post was edited on 11/2/15 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 11/2/15 at 4:14 pm to joshnorris14
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Why does CFP weight matchups based on rankings at time of game?
If they do, they shouldn't. Just look at Mississippi State last year. They skyrocketed from unranked to #1 in three weeks by beating LSU, Texas A&M and Auburn. Those teams were ranked in the top 10 when MSU played them, so they got a big boost from winning those games, but in reality, all they did was beat three 8-5 teams. This resulted in their being highly overranked and it showed late in the season when they lost three of their last four games.
However, I do think I read in a link someone posted about the committee's selection process that committee members are required to "discredit" any poll that comes out with rankings before games have been played, so it would seem that AP and Coaches' polls would be discredited.
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