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Why did the NCAA stop using TV bans as punishment?

Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:16 pm
Posted by stomp
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:16 pm
It seems that the TV ban would be a good deterrent to rampant cheaters. On top of a loss of schollies, no games on TV would make it even harder to recruit and win.

When/why did this end?
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:17 pm to
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It seems that the TV ban would be a good deterrent to rampant cheaters. On top of a loss of schollies, no games on TV would make it even harder to recruit and win.

When/why did this end?


$$$$

why should your opponent and Conference be punished
Posted by The Winner
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:18 pm to
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"If, and I say if, we have very unique circumstances where TV bans and death penalties are warranted, then I don't think they are off the table and I would be OK with putting those in place," Emmert told The Associated Press in a telephone interview
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:18 pm to
If I had to guess it has something to do with the wording in tv contracts.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:19 pm to
because it punishes everyone you play as well. Back in the days where only a handful of games were on TV each week and conferences didn't have these massive deals with networks, TV bans weren't as big a deal.
This post was edited on 6/7/17 at 1:20 pm
Posted by lsufan251875
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:21 pm to
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When/why did this end?


Tell me how happy you would be that the Ole Miss/Bama game wasn't on TV because they got caught.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:22 pm to
Did you seriously not stop and think about all the opponents they play being pretty pissed off they couldnt watch the game on tv when they play them?
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:30 pm to
Because it punishes their opponents.
I'm wondering why they stopped forfeiting and went to vacating instead.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11454 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:31 pm to
Actually I think a TV ban is a better idea now from the standpoint of back when they did tv bans, you only got 3-4 chances a year to be on Tv. Every one of those opportunities were precious to both you and your opponents. Nowadays everyone is on TV almost every week if you are in the Power 5. So you lose one game vs Ole Miss. Big deal. I'll listen to it on the radio. I like Eli Gold so that works for me.

Meanwhile Ole Miss loses every TV opportunity which hurts them both financially and in recruiting. I think it's a good idea again.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145045 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:36 pm to
because back then, conferences didnt pool their media rights together and sell them as a whole. if OM was banned from being on TV, it would frick with the entire SEC as a whole and it would frick with ESPN and CBS
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:39 pm to
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When/why did this end?


As others have said, it ends up hurting your opponent and conference in the end.

As far as when it ended, Kentucky Basketball had a TV ban in the late 80s (that included local TV too, not just National). I can't really recall anyone after that.

Today's punishments dont have shite on what they used to do...
This post was edited on 6/7/17 at 1:40 pm
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42309 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:39 pm to
Financially it would hurt all of your conference opponents as well, the SEC definitely doesn't want to take that financial hit.

I would say cut their annual payout from the SEC office and distribute that to the other teams in the SEC. That would curb cheating, knowing your opponents get your share of the pie!
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24836 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:39 pm to
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Why did the NCAA stop using TV bans as punishment?


ESPN, CBS, ABC told the NCAA to cut that shite out and NCAA said yes sir.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24836 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:40 pm to
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As far as when it ended, Kentucky Basketball had a TV ban in the late 80s (that included local TV too, not just National). I can't really recall anyone after that.



I think Auburn's 1993 football team was banned from TV.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:41 pm to
Gotcha. I couldn't remember anyone after ours and I think UNLV wasn't long after us so just assumed it stopped there.

We were at least lucky enough to have Cawood Ledford on the radio.

ETA: It looks like the full on TV bans stopped around there. UNLV had appearances "limited" for their non conference games.
This post was edited on 6/7/17 at 1:44 pm
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37573 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:46 pm to
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I think Auburn's 1993 football team was banned from TV.


Yep....The Barn-tards got a TV ban that year. You had to drive to Tuscaloosa to watch it on a big screen at BDS or listen to it on the radio. To add insult to injury, Auburn won that year.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11454 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:47 pm to
I think it would be worth forfeiting a 1/14 share of the contract for 2 years to pull the plug on Ole Miss. Amd let's face it, Ole Miss probably has one of the smallest fam bases and TV shares in the SEC. What would TV be losing?
This post was edited on 6/7/17 at 2:22 pm
Posted by DingLeeBerry
Member since Oct 2014
10894 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:49 pm to
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why should your opponent and Conference be punished


I agree with this. If a school is under a bowl ban, is the revenue forfeited inclusive of the TV revenue share or just the bowl share?

Also, I think they should do a radio ban instead. Look like it is a fairly significant amount of money. No radio broadcast and no call-in shows.

LINK

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OXFORD, Miss. -- The Ole Miss Athletics Department and TeleSouth Communications have agreed to an extension and expansion of multi-media rights for the next 10 years. The new contract, which has a guaranteed investment by TeleSouth of $27 million over the 10-year period, runs from July 1, 2007 through June 30, 2017.


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The new contract represents a significant increase in revenues to Ole Miss Athletics from TeleSouth for marketing and broadcast fees.



“I have been pleased with the aggressive revenue generation TeleSouth has exhibited,” Boone said. “In 2002 Ole Miss Athletics received $325,000 and in 2007 we received $810,000. The first year of this contract the athletic department will receive a minimum of $1,050,000. I’m confident in the continued strong growth of the revenue figure over the life of the contract.”


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TeleSouth is providing an additional $2.8 million in capital improvements, and additional financial considerations are based upon revenue generated by TeleSouth. TeleSouth has also invested $2.25 million to procure the rights for the existing video board at Vaught-Hemingway Stadium to further increase revenues to the University.



As the exclusive producer and distributor of Ole Miss sports programming, TeleSouth coordinates and distributes football, men’s and women’s basketball and baseball radio broadcasts, weekly coaches’ call-in shows and weekly television shows for football and men’s basketball. TeleSouth oversees and employs Rebel Sports Marketing and is responsible for gameday experience at every Ole Miss athletics event. Official Ole Miss gameday publications are also published and distributed by TeleSouth.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:52 pm to
They only care about money.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

I think Auburn's 1993 football team was banned from TV.

So was our 85 football team.
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