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re: Why did Florida hire McElwain
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:27 pm to roadGator
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:27 pm to roadGator
You are first to admit that UF's facilities are behind the SEC in many areas- especially for revenue sports. Football facilities are downright "high schoolish" according to those in the know.
Add in the fact that Will almost got a raise moving to Auburn (well not quite, but his pay was very low for a BCS bowl coach) and it gives an impression that Foley is cheap.
Heck why did he hire Will, a guy with no head coaching experience, in the first place instead of a most established option? To an outsider it looked like he was going to "beat the system" and "get a deal" like he does in non-football sports and it backfired.
To Foley's credit, I think he knew that cheaping out on a coordinator last time wasted more resources than it saved so he didn't back down when the $7 million buyout came up. That is why he is probably the best AD in the SEC, he gets better as he goes.
Add in the fact that Will almost got a raise moving to Auburn (well not quite, but his pay was very low for a BCS bowl coach) and it gives an impression that Foley is cheap.
Heck why did he hire Will, a guy with no head coaching experience, in the first place instead of a most established option? To an outsider it looked like he was going to "beat the system" and "get a deal" like he does in non-football sports and it backfired.
To Foley's credit, I think he knew that cheaping out on a coordinator last time wasted more resources than it saved so he didn't back down when the $7 million buyout came up. That is why he is probably the best AD in the SEC, he gets better as he goes.
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:32 pm to cardboardboxer
Will was paid too much. He would have received raises had he done well. He didn't do well.
BD is highly paid. Baseball coach is paid well, etc. Hardly cheap when it comes to results. Now, I hope we never pay 5mil for a coach that has never one us anything. That would be stupid.
Facilities are being improved left and right. Perhaps not fast enough for your liking, but improvements are coming.
I saw the idiot quotes from the Orlando "writer". The facilities are not high schoolish. That dude is a drama queen apparently. I'm not sure what his angle is but that was a stupid comment.
Moving to Auburn wasn't even close to a pay cut.
Goodness. You sure do like to troll. I give you credit. You are better with LSU though.
BD is highly paid. Baseball coach is paid well, etc. Hardly cheap when it comes to results. Now, I hope we never pay 5mil for a coach that has never one us anything. That would be stupid.
Facilities are being improved left and right. Perhaps not fast enough for your liking, but improvements are coming.
I saw the idiot quotes from the Orlando "writer". The facilities are not high schoolish. That dude is a drama queen apparently. I'm not sure what his angle is but that was a stupid comment.
Moving to Auburn wasn't even close to a pay cut.
Goodness. You sure do like to troll. I give you credit. You are better with LSU though.
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:38 pm to roadGator
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Will was paid too much.
Maybe you are right there, seems like coaches in Florida get paid less overall. Jimbo would be making like $7+ million a year at any Texas school with the level of success he has had.
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Facilities are being improved left and right. Perhaps not fast enough for your liking, but improvements are coming.
Really once yall have the IPF this fall I have to retire that talking point.
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You are better with LSU though.
Well sure, its always easier to hit fish in a barrel and the Rant is a big barrel.
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The facilities are not high schoolish.
I think the implication is "in comparison." The only outright high schoolish SEC stadium is in Missouri.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:42 pm to cardboardboxer
I think it's a ridiculous comparison but that's fine.
Our number one issue is not money. It's space on campus. There isn't any. The only future option is to close the golf course and build there. No one wants that but eventually I don't see a way around it. Then a new athletic complex can be looked at.
The swamp is old like most SEC stadiums. It gets new work on it every year mostly in the concourses. There's not much that can be done with it. It's crammed in tight on campus and is made of concrete. There's not a lot that can be done.
It's our stadium and we like it though. Haterz do wut dey do doe.
Our number one issue is not money. It's space on campus. There isn't any. The only future option is to close the golf course and build there. No one wants that but eventually I don't see a way around it. Then a new athletic complex can be looked at.
The swamp is old like most SEC stadiums. It gets new work on it every year mostly in the concourses. There's not much that can be done with it. It's crammed in tight on campus and is made of concrete. There's not a lot that can be done.
It's our stadium and we like it though. Haterz do wut dey do doe.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:44 pm to Dawg in Beaumont
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I hate Florida more than anyone, but will this next 10 years of wandering the wilderness involve zero losses to Tennessee?
Dammit.....I hate you a little less now
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:49 pm to roadGator
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I think it's a ridiculous comparison but that's fine.
Our number one issue is not money. It's space on campus. There isn't any. The only future option is to close the golf course and build there. No one wants that but eventually I don't see a way around it. Then a new athletic complex can be looked at.
The swamp is old like most SEC stadiums. It gets new work on it every year mostly in the concourses. There's not much that can be done with it. It's crammed in tight on campus and is made of concrete. There's not a lot that can be done.
It's our stadium and we like it though. Haterz do wut dey do doe.
Yeah, it's too bad we're not rich enough to put billboards up in other SEC cities.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:51 pm to roadGator
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I think it's a ridiculous comparison but that's fine.
Yeah, I agree with you on that. But Jesus, its a choice quote that is pro-A&M so I had to add it to the quiver. If not for Sao it would be my sig.
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Our number one issue is not money. It's space on campus. There isn't any.
That is a VERY interesting problem that is shared by neighboring Texas. They are landlocked down in Austin, so the only options are to build up (aka like a multifloor facility where an IPF is stacked on other football offices). It is doable, but that means upsetting people when things on campus get changed and having to pay WAY more per square foot for each upgrade you get.
That is one huge advantage someone like A&M has that often gets overlooked. We have a massive campus full of empty spaces and little regard for uniform architecture. Add in a anti-union (and partially illegal) workforce and we can throw up new facilities for pennies on the dollar compared to what other universities can do.
Just like Texas though last time I checked UF has a ton of money so its all doable. Seems like Foley has just put the priority in places other than football until recently. I don't know if that was a personal thing, a luxury Urban afforded him with success, or some sort of reflection of Yankee sensibilities in the alumni base, but I am glad to see yall plan to do more going forward.
The girl's school shouldn't be running that state like they are.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:53 pm to TiggerWoods
Because they still insist Spurrier go through an interview...
...and Fulmer's still operating under a 'no compete' clause.
...and Saban said he was not going to be the head coach at Alabama.
...and Les eats grass.
...and Bert's fat.
...and Fulmer's still operating under a 'no compete' clause.
...and Saban said he was not going to be the head coach at Alabama.
...and Les eats grass.
...and Bert's fat.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:53 pm to TiggerWoods
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Why did Florida hire McElwain
Who knows, other than J. Foley. Let's see how it plays out before drawing conclusions.
At least the program killer known as Will Muschamp has moved on to destroy another program. Good luck with that Auburn.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:55 pm to TiggerWoods
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That horse faced loser won't win big at UF
Any reason you don't like the guy other than he coached at Bama?
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:55 pm to cardboardboxer
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:56 pm to cardboardboxer
At least we are trying to make Tallahassee more educated. 
Posted on 4/23/15 at 12:57 pm to Korin
That billboard really worked wonders.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 1:01 pm to cardboardboxer
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You are first to admit that UF's facilities are behind the SEC in many areas- especially for revenue sports. Football facilities are downright "high schoolish" according to those in the know.
Then 'those in the know' aren't too well connected. They may not be Alabama level, but they most certainly aren't highschoolish. The only thing truly lacking was IPF, that as been fixed plus upgrades to lockerrooms and dorms.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 1:03 pm to Korin
I knew you were referencing the billboard the first time. You don't have to repeat yourself.
And for the record, we didn't put that up:
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And for the record, we didn't put that up:
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"This billboard was not placed by Texas A&M University, and it is certainly not reflective of how we have handled our transition into the SEC,"
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 1:14 pm to roadGator
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At least we are trying to make Tallahassee more educated
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Now, I hope we never pay 5mil for a coach that has never one us anything.
You live in Tallahassee.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 1:16 pm to TiggerWoods
That's awfully big talk from a fan of a school that hired basically a high school coach as coordinator, and figured out that maybe he was the leader for the 2010 championship team. Then hired him back after he had 1 year experience as a head coach. You never know what one of these coordinators can do until you give them a chance. McElwain is very smart and a good coach, and it may take time, but I believe that he will do well in Florida.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 1:19 pm to cardboardboxer
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And for the record, we didn't put that up:
Posted on 4/23/15 at 1:22 pm to JCinBAMA
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Now, I hope we never pay 5mil for a coach that has never one us anything.
I've always wondered why the brain allows this to happen.
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