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Posted on 7/31/15 at 3:40 pm to GaTiger77
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Going up 11 points is not the norm. If you just sign your name, you should get a 20. There are only so many test taking strategies and they are not going to increase your score 11 points. Book smarts has to take over and if originally scoring a 16, that tells me there are not a lot of book smarts there. But who knows, maybe the test that the athletes take is a "special" version of the test that will give them an 11 point increase.
The reason they red-flag them is that it's not the norm. Nobody is arguing that it is. But dramatic improvements do happen, especially from the low range to the middling-high. It's a lot easier to go from 16 to 27 than from 25 to 36. Not only was I a tutor, I actually worked for an educational testing program part time(administered everything from 5th grade aptitude tests to MCATs) while in grad school. These techniques and the classes and the study hints are specifically designed for the former jump (from low to middle) and are much more effective in improving those scores.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 3:46 pm to randomways
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I'm pretty sure the pharmacist that gave me placebos rather than the critical medicine I needed to cure my rabies was a UT grad, so you can understand why I might be a little bitter.
In fairness, you came to the counter drinking a fountain drink that was 1 part Mountain Dew and 1 part Pop Rocks. Maybe he made the wrong call but it's hard to blame him completely.
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I'll tell you what I told him -- it was his hard work that made the difference.
I'll also tell you what I told everyone else -- it was all because of me. I am a god and he was lucky to have me.
ETA: Since it's not inconceivable that he could be reading this, and since the clues regarding who I'm talking are pretty easy to add together, that last part was a joke. Honest. Well, mostly honest.
I don't think you have to worry about the joke part being missed. Mostly....
Posted on 7/31/15 at 3:54 pm to GoldenFlakes
A red flag is what kept Enrique Davis out of auburn. Enrique could barely read and write and made like a 24 when he retook the test. I know that isn't a great score, but everyone knew it was a score that Enrique was incapable of. Nice try auburn.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 4:35 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
1st try...
Posted on 7/31/15 at 4:47 pm to Prof
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In fairness, you came to the counter drinking a fountain drink that was 1 part Mountain Dew and 1 part Pop Rocks. Maybe he made the wrong call but it's hard to blame him completely.
I'm going to give you one chance, and one chance only, to apologize for being dismissive of my Dewy Rocks drink invention.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 4:48 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Nice try for what? I'm sure all schools try to "help" with test scores. You are one of those that really shouldn't talk. 
My point is for the UT fans thinking he is just a bad test taker.
My point is for the UT fans thinking he is just a bad test taker.
This post was edited on 7/31/15 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 7/31/15 at 4:56 pm to randomways
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I'm going to give you one chance, and one chance only, to apologize for being dismissive of my Dewy Rocks drink invention.
Nothing wrong with Dewy Rocks -- they spread happiness and joy around the world -- it's just that you might avoid drinking it while getting your rabies Rx filled. It could lead to confusion. The bath salts your buddy was holding didn't help. I don't know why you let him go in like that.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 5:03 pm to Prof
An 11 point jump is definitely not normal I went from a 26 to a 29 in about a year. I doubt he went up 11 bc judging by his first score he's probably not too bright
Posted on 7/31/15 at 5:07 pm to Prof
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Nothing wrong with Dewy Rocks -- they spread happiness and joy around the world -- it's just that you might avoid drinking it while getting your rabies Rx filled. It could lead to confusion. The bath salts your buddy was holding didn't help. I don't know why you let him go in like that.
We let him do whatever he likes. Have you seen what a man on bath salts can do? I'm talking, fla-ming. He can make every man within twenty yards his bitch. So, yeah, 800 lb gorilla sits wherever he wants, yadda yadda.
Thank god he doesn't use the drug of the same name. At least the kind of bath salts he uses makes him smell good.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 5:08 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Vandy running smack?
fricking IN
my first thoughts as well
Posted on 7/31/15 at 5:09 pm to NorthGAVol
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He supposedly had an 11 point jump
Yes, he went from a 7 to a 18. Red Flag.....
Posted on 7/31/15 at 5:21 pm to Skyler97
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An 11 point jump is definitely not normal I went from a 26 to a 29 in about a year. I doubt he went up 11 bc judging by his first score he's probably not too bright
Read my posts as well as Randomways' posts again. 1. You're judging a hypothetical example and numbers completely made up for the purpose of illustration as actual scores. 2. You're completely missing what has been stated about how standardized testing scores can change, what it means to have your score flagged, how/why it can happen, the difference between lower end jumps and higher end jumps and why that's important and a great deal more.
Since you think I'm simply an apologist just read randomways' posts. He's a Vandy fan with no incentive to lie in his responses.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 5:32 pm to randomways
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We let him do whatever he likes. Have you seen what a man on bath salts can do? I'm talking, fla-ming. He can make every man within twenty yards his bitch. So, yeah, 800 lb gorilla sits wherever he wants, yadda yadda.
Thank god he doesn't use the drug of the same name. At least the kind of bath salts he uses makes him smell good.
Well yes, I did hear the smell was pleasant but his sashays knocked two small children over when he went down aisle 3 to the pickup counter.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 6:25 pm to Prof
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Read my posts as well as Randomways' posts again. 1. You're judging a hypothetical example and numbers completely made up for the purpose of illustration as actual scores. 2. You're completely missing what has been stated about how standardized testing scores can change, what it means to have your score flagged, how/why it can happen, the difference between lower end jumps and higher end jumps and why that's important and a great deal more.
Since you think I'm simply an apologist just read randomways' posts. He's a Vandy fan with no incentive to lie in his responses.
I suspect the problem people are having is that they think these things are a measure of innate intelligence, and you can't "improve innate intelligence." (Which isn't precisely true, but that's another discussion.) But these tests are horrible measures of innate intelligence, and would be terrible metrics for college admission if they did measure innate intelligence. Innate intelligence isn't a good predictor of success. It's a great predictor of ability to master individual concepts, but not a good one as far as overall accomplishment in college or life itself.
None of the questions on these tests require higher thinking skills. They're deliberately designed that way because what the tests measure are the groundwork for academics, i.e. ability to parse a question and pick the best answer, and, just as importantly, the willingness to master the material. Anyone can get a decent score on the ACT or SAT if they paid attention in class (assuming competent teachers, of course) and show a willingness to study the application of the material. That latter is why people improve their scores. They have the foundational knowledge already. They just need to learn how to apply it better.
Posted on 7/31/15 at 6:44 pm to GoldenFlakes
I want them to have Dobbs do it but Butch says it will be to obvious so we will probably have Maggett take it
Posted on 7/31/15 at 7:28 pm to GoldenFlakes
What's their depth at WR/TE look like? Wharton, Bowles, Jenkins , and Helm all are gone. You can't be looking good at WR with no depth. ETA: Holy shite 11 players have transferred since the seasons end. No wonder Butch can sign 60 kids a year and still be "building".
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Posted on 7/31/15 at 7:38 pm to TJGator1215
As far as why someone would take the ACT vs SAT, I took the ACT just because the date worked better. I have no idea what the difference between the two is. I had to go to the local JUCO to do it, because the high school didn't offer it.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 1:41 pm to GoldenFlakes
Just letting OP and all concerned parties know that he has been cleared.
Posted on 8/27/15 at 1:45 pm to Robert Goulet
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Just letting OP and all concerned parties know that he has been cleared.
Probably a good thing since Pig Howard was just suspended.
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