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re: Who is the least "Clutch" coach in the SEC?

Posted on 5/22/15 at 10:03 am to
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 10:03 am to
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Saban chokes a good bit. Couple Auburn losses, GOTC, last year playoff, nearly in the 2010 BCS title game. Most Bama losses these days are Saban gagging on it.


Which Auburn loss was Saban choking on?

2008 we won

2009 we won

2010 the 2nd half was terrible, but that wasn't Saban choking. Ingram fumbling out of the endzone and all kinds of crazy stuff.

2011 we won

2012 we won

2013 he made the right call on the FG. The team just didn't execute on taking care of the return.

2014 we won

GOTC, again good decisions really, but can't help when your FG kicker can't make one. We had a very similiar game in the NC, but the big difference was we hit the FG's. Otherwise it would have been 0-0 going into the 4th quarter.

Last year playoff? How? Ohio St exposed our weakness, that's the way it is. Getting us to that point was a hell of a job.

What the hell are you guys talking about?
Posted by Statsattack
Il
Member since Feb 2013
3897 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 10:07 am to
Would say Bert based off of rose bowls n close losses but that will change
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 10:10 am to
quote:

Saban chokes a good bit. Couple Auburn losses, GOTC, last year playoff, nearly in the 2010 BCS title game. Most Bama losses these days are Saban gagging on it.


You were expecting some fish with that bait. Instead, you cast into another boat and hooked it's fisherman.
Posted by lsufancy63
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2013
796 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 10:13 am to
Even Saban has loss many games in the so called "clutch" you stupid dipshit!!!
Posted by nc14
La Jolla
Member since Jan 2012
28193 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 10:14 am to
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You were expecting some fish with that bait. Instead, you cast into another boat and hooked it's fisherman


Sure did.

BTW, your quota has been increased.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 10:27 am to
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Three natties has nothing to do with being clutch, those title games were all blowouts. I think the OP was meaning coaching in late game/tight game situations.


I was wondering what definition he was using for clutch. Using this definition, I can see where one might say Richt. he has had several memorable late game misjudgements. (South Carolina 2014, Alabama 2012 being two notable ones)

On the other hand, he has had several very good finishes, too, against Alabama, Tennessee, LSU to name a several.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39967 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 10:30 am to
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I would probably go with a coach that has had top 10 recruiting classes for the last 15 years in a row, yet he has never even played for a national championship and hasn't even won a conference championship since 2005. Seems pretty unclutch to me


Well, he's usually finishing where his recruiting classes are ranked or higher. Seems pretty clutch to me. He's never had a top 5 class that is the precursor to winning a natty than I can remember off the top of my head.
This post was edited on 5/22/15 at 10:31 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 10:30 am to
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I think you're missing the point of the question. This is not meant to be a discussion on the virtues of having a passable career.


If Richt has had a "Passable" career, what has Pinkel had, pray tell?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 10:32 am to
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More interesting question:

How many people will say Les despite the facts that prove otherwise, which are posted in this very thread.

O/U at 8.



Gotta agree. Not sure how Miles could be in this discussion. I don't think of him as choking in games. I don't care for his play calling a lot, but not particularly thinking of choking in the clutch.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 10:33 am to
It's called meta-fishing.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 10:34 am to
quote:

would probably go with a coach that has had top 10 recruiting classes for the last 15 years in a row, yet he has never even played for a national championship and hasn't even won a conference championship since 2005. Seems pretty unclutch to me



Georgia. Alaways on your mind, huh? How about being in the same recruiting situation as another in state school, yet can't seem to come close to it's success? Would that be considered pretty unclutch....or just inept?
This post was edited on 5/22/15 at 10:37 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 10:36 am to
quote:

I would probably go with a coach that has had top 10 recruiting classes for the last 15 years in a row, yet he has never even played for a national championship and hasn't even won a conference championship since 2005. Seems pretty unclutch to me


This post was edited on 5/22/15 at 10:37 am
Posted by Rollo
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
427 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 10:49 am to
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The Georgia problem is occasionally being completely (or at least playing like they are) unprepared for a game they should win.


This. Add to that, a tendency to go conservative after he gets a lead only to allow the momentum to change and have to hold on for dear life for what should have been an easier win, and mind-numbingly stupid plays made out of fear (See, squib kick). Hopefully, Pruitt and the other new coaches will help make him more aggressive in those situations
Posted by reggierayreb
Germantown
Member since Nov 2012
16945 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:24 am to
whoever is coaching Kentucky football for the current half decade
Posted by kudzoo
Member since Nov 2011
656 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:44 am to
Not Les, he's represented the SEC against some quality OOC teams quite well over the years.

Butch is still looking for his 1st signature win.
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 11:50 am to
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Les will probably be at the top of everyone's list. But it's not really fair.

Let's see; winningest coach during his tenure; more victories over ranked teams than anyone else during his tenure; more comeback victories in the 4th quarter and overtime than anyone else during his tenure; oh hell yeah it's fair. How do you get "clutch" out of those facts?
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52633 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

Saban chokes a good bit. Couple Auburn losses, GOTC, last year playoff, nearly in the 2010 BCS title game. Most Bama losses these days are Saban gagging on it.



I disagree. Our coaches put our players in position in the 2010 IB to go up like 35-0 in the first half but our players squandered that away.

In 2013 our players were in good position to put AU away multiple times and our players just didn't execute.

GoTC? We had them put away if Williams doesn't let Eric Reid straight up take the ball away from him with two full hands on the ball.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 5/22/15 at 12:12 pm to
Anyone who says Les, doesn't watch football.

Couple of clock management issues aside, he has been fantastic at the end of some amazing games.

As far as clutch, Less ranks somewhere in the top half of the league.

Least clutch is Richt. Nobody does less with more than Richt. Next to Richt is Spurrier.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 12:43 pm to
Don't forget his Jan Kemp shrine.

Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9056 posts
Posted on 5/22/15 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

Butch is still looking for his 1st signature win.


I'd call the 2013 USCe game a signature win, considering they finished #4 in the country.

On the other hand, you never want to call a win over South Carolina a signature win...
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