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When the SEC inevitably expands should they Abolish the divisions?
Posted on 1/5/16 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 1/5/16 at 3:13 pm
When the SEC inevitably expands by adding Oklahoma and one of the ACC schools, should they just abolish the divisional scheduling structure and switch to a round robin type of scheduling instead?
Keep the existing rivalries in tact, but rotate the remaining SEC match ups every two years, one home and the other away.
For example. Ole Miss still would play LSU and Miss. State anually, but would fill their remaining 6 SEC matchups with teams they don't consistently play now. This is what that would look like:
Year 1.
3 cupcakes
1 OOC p5
LSU
State
Georgia @ Home
South Carolina Away
Tennessee Away
Year 2:
3 cupcakes
1 OOC P5
Miss. State
LSU
Georgia away
Tennessee home
South Carolina home.
Year 3.
Replace Georgia, South Carolina, and Tennessee with 3 other SEC schools for the next 2 year cycle.
Thoughts?
Keep the existing rivalries in tact, but rotate the remaining SEC match ups every two years, one home and the other away.
For example. Ole Miss still would play LSU and Miss. State anually, but would fill their remaining 6 SEC matchups with teams they don't consistently play now. This is what that would look like:
Year 1.
3 cupcakes
1 OOC p5
LSU
State
Georgia @ Home
South Carolina Away
Tennessee Away
Year 2:
3 cupcakes
1 OOC P5
Miss. State
LSU
Georgia away
Tennessee home
South Carolina home.
Year 3.
Replace Georgia, South Carolina, and Tennessee with 3 other SEC schools for the next 2 year cycle.
Thoughts?
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Posted on 1/5/16 at 3:15 pm to Grovewater
Yes
Posted on 1/5/16 at 3:15 pm to Grovewater
frick you.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 3:16 pm to Grovewater
I'll let the people in the SEC Offices tasked with this imaginary job deal with it.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 3:18 pm to Grovewater
Add 6 more teams and go to a "European Football Style" relegation system.
10 in the big boy division.
10 in the bitch division.
Bottom two drop, top two ascend.
10 in the big boy division.
10 in the bitch division.
Bottom two drop, top two ascend.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 3:18 pm to Grovewater
KSGamecock is back, he can make us a chart for this.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 3:20 pm to RB10
quote:
Bottom two drop, top two ascend.
This would screw Auburn. We only win championships a year after tanking.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 3:21 pm to Weagle25
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This would screw Auburn. We only win championships a year after tanking
The bitch made division can have a championship as well.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 3:21 pm to Grovewater
Wouldn't mind dropping them but keeping three permanent rivals on the schedule and rotate the rest.
UT keeps:
Bama
UF
UGA
Play everyone more often but keeps some of the old rivalries.
No more expansion though.
UT keeps:
Bama
UF
UGA
Play everyone more often but keeps some of the old rivalries.
No more expansion though.
This post was edited on 1/5/16 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 1/5/16 at 3:23 pm to Grovewater
Ain't expanding. Good night now.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 3:29 pm to Taurus 357
Add Clemson and one other team, go to 4 4 team pods.
One pod should have:
LSU
Auburn
Clemson
Missouri
One pod should have:
LSU
Auburn
Clemson
Missouri
Posted on 1/5/16 at 3:30 pm to Killean
quote:
LSU
Auburn
Clemson
Missouri
Tiger Pod!
Humanoid Pod:
Vanderbilt
Tennessee
Aggy
Ole Miss
Pet Pod:
UGA
MSU
USCe
Gators
Nuisance Pod:
Bama
Arky
Kentucky
Miami
This post was edited on 1/5/16 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 1/5/16 at 4:11 pm to Killean
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Add Clemson and one other team, go to 4 4 team pods.
Clemson will never be in the SEC. They don't want to be in the SEC. Then they'd have to play an actual conference schedule with actual real road games rather than having one game a year against Florida St for the conference title. Do you know how hard they would have to try to lose to Wake, BC, Miami, Virginia, Syracuse, etc.? They have it made! One game a year in conference and 7 sure things.
Of course, it wouldn't matter if they did want to get in, they won't be getting in just like Louisville, Ga Tech, Florida St, and Texas aren't getting in.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 4:11 pm to RB10
It is likely that the SEC will eventually expand to 16 teams. Which two additional teams is anyone's guess as expansion isn't likely anytime soon.
Having said that, the SEC has expressed that the two additional teams be outside of the existing SEC foot print.
What works best is to go to 4 groups or pods of teams.
Each team plays each team in its own pod on an annual home and away basis. That accounts for 3 games. Each team plays another team from another pod on a home and away basis ( 2 years) and 2 teams from one of the other pods which accounts for 6 games. Then every one rotates pods again after 2 years. This makes for a 9 game SEC schedule which will likely be dictated by SEC network contract.
Everyone plays every SEC team every four years which will increase conference cohesion.
Likely pod scenario. Suggested but subject to change as teams should be given a choice which pod they want to be placed in.
North pod.
Vanderbilt/Kentucky/ Missouri/ New team
East pod
Florida/Georgia/South Carolina/ New team
South pod
Alabama/ Tennessee/ Auburn/ Miss State
West pod
LSU/ Texas A&M/ Ole Miss/ Arkansas
Every current rivalry but one is maintained.
LSU/ Florida gets to play twice in four years instead of annually. Same for any annual rivalry I might have missed. The key is to place these annual rivalry teams in the same pod so that they can play each other. The conference propeller heads / athletic directors/ coaches can figure that aspect out.
Pod alignment predicated on adding two new teams from the Eastern United States.
Having said that, the SEC has expressed that the two additional teams be outside of the existing SEC foot print.
What works best is to go to 4 groups or pods of teams.
Each team plays each team in its own pod on an annual home and away basis. That accounts for 3 games. Each team plays another team from another pod on a home and away basis ( 2 years) and 2 teams from one of the other pods which accounts for 6 games. Then every one rotates pods again after 2 years. This makes for a 9 game SEC schedule which will likely be dictated by SEC network contract.
Everyone plays every SEC team every four years which will increase conference cohesion.
Likely pod scenario. Suggested but subject to change as teams should be given a choice which pod they want to be placed in.
North pod.
Vanderbilt/Kentucky/ Missouri/ New team
East pod
Florida/Georgia/South Carolina/ New team
South pod
Alabama/ Tennessee/ Auburn/ Miss State
West pod
LSU/ Texas A&M/ Ole Miss/ Arkansas
Every current rivalry but one is maintained.
LSU/ Florida gets to play twice in four years instead of annually. Same for any annual rivalry I might have missed. The key is to place these annual rivalry teams in the same pod so that they can play each other. The conference propeller heads / athletic directors/ coaches can figure that aspect out.
Pod alignment predicated on adding two new teams from the Eastern United States.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 4:13 pm to cardboardboxer
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frick you.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 4:13 pm to KingSlayer
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Clemson will never be in the SEC.
When the SEC was looking to expand didn't
UF block FSU
USC block Clemson
UK block Louisville
UGA block GA Tech
Seems like I remember the teams say they wouldn't allow these moves.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 4:19 pm to DoUrden
Yep, UK, USC, UGA, UF and A&M will forever block 2nd SEC teams in their states.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 4:21 pm to RB10
quote:
Add 6 more teams and go to a "European Football Style" relegation system.
10 in the big boy division.
10 in the bitch division.
Bottom two drop, top two ascend.
Would be sweet
Posted on 1/5/16 at 4:22 pm to Grovewater
The SEC will never expand again 14 teams is too much to begin with, 16 would be hell.
Posted on 1/5/16 at 4:23 pm to DoUrden
I don't want any additional expansion of the SEC. If the SEC does expand, I don't really care who we play as long as we play Alabama and UGA each year.
If we had three perms, I would probably want Miss State as #3 so they would not all be historically powerful teams. Fla, LSU, and Tenn (in that order) would be fun and I would say are our three semi-rivals, but it would be nice to have a bit of a break w/ State.
This is more or less what basketball has done, where each team kept three rivals and rotates the rest. Auburn got Bama, UGA (naturally), and Ole Miss which is a little odd for that third spot since we don't have that much of a rivalry (any sport) w/ the Rebs.
If we had three perms, I would probably want Miss State as #3 so they would not all be historically powerful teams. Fla, LSU, and Tenn (in that order) would be fun and I would say are our three semi-rivals, but it would be nice to have a bit of a break w/ State.
This is more or less what basketball has done, where each team kept three rivals and rotates the rest. Auburn got Bama, UGA (naturally), and Ole Miss which is a little odd for that third spot since we don't have that much of a rivalry (any sport) w/ the Rebs.
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