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What will the landscape of the SEC look like in 2046?
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:34 pm
Here are the Council of Mayors Population Change estimates (2046 population, % change from 2016 to 2046)
Population Changes : 2016 to 2046
1. Dallas (11.4M) (57.1%) (3rd Nationally)
2. Houston (10.6M) (56.2%) (4th Nationally)
3. Atlanta (8.6M) (48.7%) (6th Nationally)
4. Miami (8.1M) (33.0%) (7th Nationally)
5. Tampa (4.2M) (36.9%)
6. Orlando (4.0M) (63.3%)
7. Austin (3.9M) (87.4%)
8. San Antonio (3.7M) (53.3%)
9. St. Louis (3.0M) (5.4%)
10. Nashville (2.6M) (40.5%)
11. Kansas City (2.6M) (24.2%)
12. Jacksonville, FL (2.1M) (41.7%)
13. Memphis (1.5M) (13.3%)
14. Louisville (1.5M) (15.1%)
15. McAllen, TX (1.4M) (59.8%)
16. Fort Myers, FL (1.3M) (84.4%)
17. New Orleans (1.3M) (1.8%)
18. Birmingham (1.2M) (7.7%)
19. Bradenton, FL (1.2M) (48.5%)
20. Greenville, SC (1.1M) (25.6%)
21. Charleston, SC (1.1M) (44.4%)
22. El Paso, TX (1.1M) (30.4%)
23. Columbia, SC (1.0M) (27.0%)
24. Knoxville, TN (1.0M) (18.0%)
25. Daytona Beach, FL (918K) (44.4%)
Others
Baton Rouge (913K) (9.5%)
Fayetteville (850K) (61.5%)
Little Rock (833K) (13.5%)
Chattanooga (660K) (19.8%)
Lexington, KY (625K) (23.4%)
Jackson, MS (624K) (7.8%)
Huntsville, AL (585K) (30.2%)
Mobile, AL (410K) (-1.3%)
Montgomery, AL (402K) (8.0%)
College Station, TX (367K) (43.7%)
Population Changes : 2016 to 2046
1. Dallas (11.4M) (57.1%) (3rd Nationally)
2. Houston (10.6M) (56.2%) (4th Nationally)
3. Atlanta (8.6M) (48.7%) (6th Nationally)
4. Miami (8.1M) (33.0%) (7th Nationally)
5. Tampa (4.2M) (36.9%)
6. Orlando (4.0M) (63.3%)
7. Austin (3.9M) (87.4%)
8. San Antonio (3.7M) (53.3%)
9. St. Louis (3.0M) (5.4%)
10. Nashville (2.6M) (40.5%)
11. Kansas City (2.6M) (24.2%)
12. Jacksonville, FL (2.1M) (41.7%)
13. Memphis (1.5M) (13.3%)
14. Louisville (1.5M) (15.1%)
15. McAllen, TX (1.4M) (59.8%)
16. Fort Myers, FL (1.3M) (84.4%)
17. New Orleans (1.3M) (1.8%)
18. Birmingham (1.2M) (7.7%)
19. Bradenton, FL (1.2M) (48.5%)
20. Greenville, SC (1.1M) (25.6%)
21. Charleston, SC (1.1M) (44.4%)
22. El Paso, TX (1.1M) (30.4%)
23. Columbia, SC (1.0M) (27.0%)
24. Knoxville, TN (1.0M) (18.0%)
25. Daytona Beach, FL (918K) (44.4%)
Others
Baton Rouge (913K) (9.5%)
Fayetteville (850K) (61.5%)
Little Rock (833K) (13.5%)
Chattanooga (660K) (19.8%)
Lexington, KY (625K) (23.4%)
Jackson, MS (624K) (7.8%)
Huntsville, AL (585K) (30.2%)
Mobile, AL (410K) (-1.3%)
Montgomery, AL (402K) (8.0%)
College Station, TX (367K) (43.7%)
This post was edited on 5/17/17 at 2:35 pm
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Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:35 pm to SummerOfGeorge
15-0 Ship! 
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:35 pm to SummerOfGeorge
We need a new plague
3 cities in South Carolina with over a million people seems a little nuts
3 cities in South Carolina with over a million people seems a little nuts
This post was edited on 5/17/17 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:37 pm to SummerOfGeorge
St Louis, Memphis, New Orleans, Birmingham, Jackson, Montgomery and Mobile anticipating continued struggles in attracting growth.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:41 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Those numbers for Dallas and Houston are insane if they do in fact come true.
Would not want to live in Austin or Atlanta with how bad the traffic is now. Can't imagine a few more million people.
Would not want to live in Austin or Atlanta with how bad the traffic is now. Can't imagine a few more million people.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:42 pm to TheXman
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Atlanta with how bad the traffic is now
Atlanta is going to be interesting though because the rapid growth is in the Urban core. If this estimate came to fruition my guess would be that the urban center (Midtown/Downtown/Brookwood/Buckhead) would become much denser.
Probably the same in Houston and Dallas.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:45 pm to SummerOfGeorge
You're still adding tons of people to the roads (unless self driving cars have relived a lot of that).
Also Atlanta, Houston and the Metroplex are all so spread out all ready. I think you'll see a lot of growth in the downtown/urban areas but a ton more urban sprawl too.
Also Atlanta, Houston and the Metroplex are all so spread out all ready. I think you'll see a lot of growth in the downtown/urban areas but a ton more urban sprawl too.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:46 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Oddly enough the greater Memphis area is doing just fine, even growing like a weed. The problem is that Memphis itself is bleeding population to the areas around it.
I expect strong growth to continue in North Mississippi and across the river in Arkansas.
I expect strong growth to continue in North Mississippi and across the river in Arkansas.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:47 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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1. Dallas (11.4M) (57.1%) (3rd Nationally)
2. Houston (10.6M) (56.2%) (4th Nationally)
How much longer past this will they be touching
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:47 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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We need a new plague
An asteroid might do it.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:49 pm to Arksulli
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Oddly enough the greater Memphis area is doing just fine, even growing like a weed. The problem is that Memphis itself is bleeding population to the areas around it.
These numbers include the entire Metro Area (Memphis includes Southhaven, Collierville and Crittenden County, AR).
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:49 pm to rockiee
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How much longer past this will they be touching
The better question is about Austin/San Antonio. Eventually they will grow together.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:50 pm to TheXman
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Also Atlanta, Houston and the Metroplex are all so spread out all ready. I think you'll see a lot of growth in the downtown/urban areas but a ton more urban sprawl too.
Atlanta's urban sprawl has slowed considerably since the recession. It's more of just moving from suburb to suburb with old "nice" suburbs becoming less nice and new ones popping up.
The metro hasn't really advanced north past Woodstock or Cumming, which was kind of the final frontier in 2000 or so of the great sprawl.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:56 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Atlanta's traffic is awful already in the midtown/buckhead area though. I was there on a week day during rush hour in college and it took me like 45-50 minutes to go 3 miles.
I hope for your sake it gets better if you plan on being there a while, but I have a feeling it's only going to get worse.
I hope for your sake it gets better if you plan on being there a while, but I have a feeling it's only going to get worse.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:56 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
It's already too crowded here. I can't imagine what's it's gonna be like then 
Posted on 5/17/17 at 2:58 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Huntsville will break into the top 25.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 3:01 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Will it matter to either of us?
Posted on 5/17/17 at 3:01 pm to TheXman
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Atlanta's traffic is awful already in the midtown/buckhead area though. I was there on a week day during rush hour in college and it took me like 45-50 minutes to go 3 miles.
Depends where and when, but yea side streets are bad during rush hour. However, Midtown and Buckhead have solid MARTA access depending on where you are coming from.
The hope is obviously that in 30 years we've built out a bit between the Beltline, the Clifton Line and the 400 Line up North. Maybe even Cobb and Gwinnett will give us the A-ok too.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 3:03 pm to higgs_boson
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Will it matter to either of us?
I will be a ripe 60 year old grandpa (hopefully) in 2046 with an ITP house that has quadrupled in value thanks to the legacy of Dictator Trump, who just handed off his kingdom to Lil Donald Jr after 25 years of merciful rule.
This post was edited on 5/17/17 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 5/17/17 at 3:04 pm to higgs_boson
I was going to say that I will likely have a peace-lily planted on my forehead by then
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