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re: What SEC school is on par with an ivy league education?
Posted on 8/21/16 at 11:39 pm to RogerTempleton
Posted on 8/21/16 at 11:39 pm to RogerTempleton
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Being part of a cult lends itself to connections with other cult members, yeah
You're talking about the REC, right?
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:09 am to Hailstate8
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The only team close is Vandy and it's not close.
Actually, Vandy is more difficult than the top ivys. US News has badly damaged the ivys by emphasizing retention and graduation rates so much. Now, you almost can't fail out of an ivy. It's the same at Vandy, but not quite as bad. They want to protect their ranking so badly that they'll do anything to keep piss-poor students in school.
What the ivys are really noted for is extraordinary doctoral programs, extreme difficulty in gaining entrance, and a deep-seated hatred of western civilization, especially the USA. And merit is not the main factor in admissions; it's money and connections. Al Gore's child, with a 28 on her ACT, will get in, while yours or mine with a 35 won't. Only extreme merit - Einstein will get in - will get you in if you don't have connections.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 2:18 am to Les Miles Lunchbox
Honestly, people really need to think about what education is. Now, I'm not saying that top-tier universities don't have some top-tier minds, both on the faculty and in the student body. They do. I've known plenty of both, and they're worth associating with. But there comes a point where it's next to impossible to argue that an education at Harvard is quantitatively more effective than one at Vanderbilt, or that one at Vanderbilt is quantitatively more effective than one at Ole Miss. Calculus is calculus no matter where you are. A top-notch professor of the sort that a top-ranked university might retain could give you more to think about when reading A la recherche du temps perdu, but the novel itself is no different. Learning to speak French doesn't take a tenured Stanford professor to hold your hand the entire way. Statistical transformation rules aren't suddenly magic when taught at a private university. And so forth. I won't argue that an education from a prestigious university isn't worth undertaking, but I will point out that what you get out of an education, at least in the basics, depends far more on you than on the venue and your teachers.
Now, if we're talking research, that's a slightly different beast, though it's a beast that's at least partially driven by money. The best research universities tend to be the ones with the most cash and grant allocations and the ones that get the most cash tend to be the ones with the best reputation. It's a self-perpetuating hierarchy of success.
Now, if we're talking research, that's a slightly different beast, though it's a beast that's at least partially driven by money. The best research universities tend to be the ones with the most cash and grant allocations and the ones that get the most cash tend to be the ones with the best reputation. It's a self-perpetuating hierarchy of success.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 5:51 am to Les Miles Lunchbox
Vanderbilt is the closest but still no.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 6:45 am to LSU GrandDad
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you sir, are a fricking dumb shite.
This is just a short list of Obama cabinet members that agree with you...
Hillary Clinton, Eric Holder, Ashton Carter, John Kerry, Loretta Lynch, John B. King Jr. Jeh Johnson, Julian Castro, Penny Pritzker, Sylvia Mathews Burwell, Thomas Perez, Jack Lew, John Bryson, Arne Duncan, Timothy Geithner, Henry Paulson.....
There are many more to speak of.....and then we can get work are way over to Congress.
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but what about finance. what about moving to new York, the financial capital of the world and see what your finance degree from a&m is worth.
Want to talk about all of the Ivy league blue bloods on Wall Street fricking this country up too?
This post was edited on 8/22/16 at 7:03 am
Posted on 8/22/16 at 8:28 am to LSU82BILL
It is amazing how many people in this thread have no idea what they are talking about and have a bunch of nonsense to say. We get it, you didn't get into an Ivy school or didn't even apply because you knew you wouldn't. I am sorry that happened to you. Well, not really. You can just stay in your own self-adjusted bubble and make yourselves feel better.
Go PU.
Go PU.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 8:45 am to randomways
I kind of agree.
While I'd go to Harvard or Yale over Vanderbilt, I'd definitely go to Vandy over Dartmouth, and I'd go to fricking UGA over Brown.
While I'd go to Harvard or Yale over Vanderbilt, I'd definitely go to Vandy over Dartmouth, and I'd go to fricking UGA over Brown.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 11:52 am to TheRaid
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It is amazing how many people in this thread have no idea what they are talking about and have a bunch of nonsense to say.
Yep. But answers the OP question, though.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:36 pm to texag7
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Mays Business School (which contains finance) is currently ranked...
1st overall for value of money (MBA)
3rd best public undergrad business program in the U.S.
5th in the U.S. for business networking
Many other top national rankings in that link
Lol
Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:36 pm to Lou Pai
That's all you got?
Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:40 pm to texag7
Yeah
Kudos to you for your school spirit
Kudos to you for your school spirit
Posted on 8/22/16 at 4:05 pm to TheRaid
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It is amazing how many people in this thread have no idea what they are talking about and have a bunch of nonsense to say. We get it, you didn't get into an Ivy school or didn't even apply because you knew you wouldn't. I am sorry that happened to you. Well, not really. You can just stay in your own self-adjusted bubble and make yourselves feel better.
Go PU.
What the frick is your problem? 99.99% of HS graduates can't get into an Ivy League school. I should be embarrassed that I'm in that group. I didn't grow up wanting to be a doctor, lawyer, Wall Street big shot, CEO, or President of the United States. I wanted to be a professional baseball player and got a full ride to what is now one of the top programs in the nation. While I never made it to the big leagues, I have happened to have a pretty good career. I'd like to brag about being in the "1 Percent" but unfortunately, only having an undergraduate degree from LSU, I'll have to be satisfied with only being in the top 5 percent terms of of annual household income.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 4:12 pm to Les Miles Lunchbox
IMO, where you go to school is overblown in terms of importance. If anything, it's the connections you'd make at an ivy league school that would benefit you most later in life.
The quality of education I received at LSU was about on par with the education I got at Tulane (I attended both), graduated from TU but identify ad an LSU fan (had to move to NOLA to help with family business midway through time in college, heart is and has always been with LSU).
Point is though that while Tulane is considered a very prestigious university in terms of academics and quality-of-education (sometimes referred to as "the Harvard of the South"), the biggest difference between TU and LSU was the class size.
If you do the work to learn the material you can get a quality education wherever you go to school.
The quality of education I received at LSU was about on par with the education I got at Tulane (I attended both), graduated from TU but identify ad an LSU fan (had to move to NOLA to help with family business midway through time in college, heart is and has always been with LSU).
Point is though that while Tulane is considered a very prestigious university in terms of academics and quality-of-education (sometimes referred to as "the Harvard of the South"), the biggest difference between TU and LSU was the class size.
If you do the work to learn the material you can get a quality education wherever you go to school.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 4:14 pm to randomways
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randomways
Very well stated. I agree with you 100%.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 4:59 pm to Number 31
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Point is though that while Tulane is considered a very prestigious university in terms of academics and quality-of-education (sometimes referred to as "the Harvard of the South"), the biggest difference between TU and LSU was the class size
If this thread were titled "What SEC school is on par with a private Louisiana university" that would be relevant as heck.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 5:01 pm to oman
What's your shaggy handle?
Posted on 8/22/16 at 5:02 pm to Number 31
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IMO, where you go to school is overblown in terms of importance
No doubt.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 5:50 pm to Chill98
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it is about the networks you build by going to those institutions
This cat gets it
Posted on 8/22/16 at 6:00 pm to Les Miles Lunchbox
Do you consider learning how to interact with other human beings, having sex with beautiful women, etc "education". If so, I'd say that many sec schools compare. Quality degrees + becoming socially competent is at least as good as a great education and not.
Posted on 8/22/16 at 6:18 pm to Number 31
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Point is though that while Tulane is considered a very prestigious university in terms of academics and quality-of-education (sometimes referred to as "the Harvard of the South")
Yeah and so does Nicholls State. There is Ivy/Stanford, then the Vandy, Duke and Northwesterns of the world with the top publics, then the fallback privates like Tulane, Miami and SMU, then most of the SEC.
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