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What really happened with Grier's 'banned substance' incident

Posted on 10/13/15 at 11:23 am
Posted by LSU2NO
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 11:23 am
This is my take on what happened. He took steroids, he gained weight, he was routinely/randomly tested for drugs. He was caught, he then bought over-the-counter medication, but did not take any and had a press conference where he wasn't lying about buying 'some' OTC meds, but he didn't really look and sound contrite enough. Also, when did he fail the drug test and what was the drug that was found?
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 11:24 am to
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This is my take on what happened
Posted by biggsc
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 11:27 am to
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What are Florida's chances of shortening Grier's suspension?

Grier will have to sit out while he appeals. If UF wins, he will regain his original eligibility and be eligible to compete immediately. However, based on past NCAA action, it is very unlikely he will win, as also confirmed by an athletic department source at a different school.

This is one of the hardest areas in which to get an appeal or a reduction of suspension, said the compliance director.

In his press conference, Grier said, "I took an over-the-counter supplement that had something in it. And I did not check with the medical staff." However, NCAA bylaws specifically state that not knowing is not an excuse, so Grier doesn't really have grounds for appeal on this, especially since programs repeatedly remind players to check first.

One trainer at an FBS program said his school even keeps track of which players are using Zyrtec, a seasonal allergy medication. Players at that school aren't allowed to take Benadryl without contacting trainers first.

The only way he could conceivably win on appeal is if the supplement was for an extreme medical condition, but that does not appear to be the case in this situation, though UF denied reports that the supplement is the muscle-loss treatment Ligandrol. And even if it was the case, it does not mean he would win, since he did not check with Florida's trainers.

Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 11:27 am to
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This is my take on what happened

You must be an insider?
Posted by TheRaid
Currently Living in South Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 11:32 am to
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This is my take on what happened. He took steroids, he gained weight, he was routinely/randomly tested for drugs. He was caught, he then bought over-the-counter medication, but did not take any and had a press conference where he wasn't lying about buying 'some' OTC meds, but he didn't really look and sound contrite enough. Also, when did he fail the drug test and what was the drug that was found?


The problem with your take is that the receipt is dated in June. As for looking contrite enough, what does that look like?
Posted by LSU2NO
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
1920 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 11:56 am to
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The problem with your take is that the receipt is dated in June. As for looking contrite enough, what does that look like?


As I said, what does the blood test show? And what receipt are you talking about? There's is a paper trail leading to whatever 'banned' substance got into Grier's body.
Posted by LSU2NO
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
1920 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:00 pm to
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This is my take on what happened
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You must be an insider?


No, that is my opinion. You slow this morning?
Posted by BallstotheWesleyWall
Swagosphere
Member since Jan 2014
9364 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:03 pm to
My favorite part about this situation is the contingent of people that say it shouldn't matter that he took it because it didn't affect the play on the field, "quarterbacks taking PEDs, what does that matter?"

It's just like the Deflategate thing. If it doesn't help you, you don't do it. You weigh the risks with the rewards and if there's no rewards, you don't take pills or injections or deflate footballs. I don't understand how people don't get that.
Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
5823 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:20 pm to
With an imagination like that, you should write childrens books.
Posted by TNG8r
TN
Member since Sep 2014
1317 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by fierysnowman
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
1962 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:45 pm to
He gained 35lbs of muscle in 1 year. It helped
Posted by PAGator
Member since Jul 2015
2339 posts
Posted on 10/13/15 at 12:45 pm to
I was waiting for your opinion on it. Thanks for finally sharing
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