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What if Bielema's "system" continues to be a disaster in the SEC?

Posted on 7/29/14 at 4:00 am
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 4:00 am
His offensive system of a big, fat running back getting 50 carries a game behind a big, fat offensive line worked in the Big ten because that conference is plagued by slow, non-agile defenses that did not cause the "big uglies" any trouble. SEC defenses, while still being big, have that agility and speed that is (has been) a nightmare for Bielema, because he usually doesn't put much value in quarterbacks. They are a distant second in his offensive system, which means whoever is behind center will always be mediocre and unpracticed. That will prove troublesome, for it means that once Bielema has seen enough of his running game getting gobbled up, he'll have to resort to a passing game lead by a quarterback who is inexperienced except with handoffs; the result will be an unmitigated shite show.

Bielema's system only works in a conference where his big fat offensive line doesn't have to deal with agile, defensive athletes. This means that once Hogland has enough of the shitshow, he'll bolt back to the Big ten or the Acc.

Illinois will be looking for a new coach soon, so my money is on Bielema heading there, or the Pitt Panthers.
Posted by The Nino
Member since Jan 2010
21519 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 4:07 am to
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What if Bielema's "system" continues to be a disaster in the SEC?
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once Hogland has enough of the shitshow, he'll bolt back to the Big ten or the Acc.
Seems like you answered your own question.
Posted by PeaRidgeWatash
Down by the docks of the city
Member since Dec 2004
15210 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 4:12 am to
He's a good coach, but the SEC is just so loaded. Particularly the West. He'll be there til the end of 2015, so Arkansas will be mediocre at best until at least 2020. They should've kept Petrino. Winning makes pretty much anything forgivable.
Posted by dchunk
NOLA
Member since Dec 2010
959 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 5:08 am to
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Winning makes pretty much anything forgivable

That's a sad state of affairs...literally
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 6:04 am to
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They should've kept Petrino.


The only choice was to get rid of him. I don't fault Arkansas.

Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 6:04 am to
The problem with Bielema is he can be a rather good coach and a complete failure in his current job. For a solid/pretty good coach in a solid/pretty good program, the ceiling right now in the SEC West is 5th out of 7. (4th if A&M can't replace JFF, but don't be too quick to assume that).

I think his approach can have some level of success, but that approach will not beat LSU or Bama, Will Arkansas accept another year of struggling, and then 7 to 8 win seasons? I doubt it.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 6:17 am to
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LSU or Bama


I see what you did there.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12854 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 6:25 am to
Ron Dayne =/= Monte Ball
(Dayne was Alvarez anyway??)

His "system" isn't a fail. His cupboard was left pretty bare by Petrino who got lazy with recruiting after his big fat new contract. Especially bare for his "system", which is nothing more than grown man football.

Note to Self: IF he does win the SEC-W, or more, to make sure and post for the next 10 years that he won with Petrino's players despite what I said above.
Posted by RazorHawk
Inverness, FL
Member since Dec 2004
514 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 6:25 am to
Unless he walks away, his buyout is fairly large, so he will get 4 to 5 years to try to get it done. Being in the SEC and the West particularly, makes it a difficult task.

Some, not me, wish the Hogs had stayed in the Texas league, but I do believe they would have stayed in the top tier in that conference.
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 7/29/14 at 6:30 am to
I honestly think he has potential to lead arkansas in the right direction, but it's going to be difficult almost impossible for him to steer recruits away from a&m, bama, auburn, lsu, and even Mizzou. Arkansas is a really hard program to sell right now.
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 6:30 am to
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LSU or Bama


I see what you did there.


Actually, while I admit to many subtle jabs at auburn several times a day, that was not one of them. I did not mention Bama and LSU because of success, I mentioned them because of the talent in recruiting both have enjoyed on the defensive side of the ball. auburn's success right now is not as much on that side, and would not have been a good example of a team that would easily shut down the "plow it behind the fat guys" approach (as is evidenced by last year's game between the two.)
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 6:33 am to
Should've kept Petrino. That guy was Arkansas' Jesus and yet y'all crucified him for getting some strange. I was scared of Petrino. Now, Bert? Hell no. We'd've kept Petrino, but we care about winning.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12854 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 6:33 am to
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Some, not me, wish the Hogs had stayed in the Texas league, but I do believe they would have stayed in the top tier in that conference.
AR has made HUGE leaps and bounds in facilities, attitude, and perception in the last 8-12 years. I don't think that would have happened if they had stayed in SWC because the $$$ involved with being in the SEC. Donations have jumped since joining in 1992, so it's more than just "SEC money" too (that's the attitude & perception part).
Posted by NickSabanRules
Member since Jul 2014
297 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 6:55 am to
I think he's a good coach. I also think Arkansas will make a Bowl game this year.
Posted by gumbeaux
Member since Jun 2004
4459 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 6:57 am to
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because he usually doesn't put much value in quarterbacks. They are a distant second in his offensive system, which means whoever is behind center will always be mediocre and unpracticed. That will prove troublesome, for it means that once Bielema has seen enough of his running game getting gobbled up, he'll have to resort to a passing game lead by a quarterback who is inexperienced except with handoffs; the result will be an unmitigated shite show.


What about Russell Wilson?
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
25134 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 6:59 am to
Wilson already proved that he was a really good qb when he was at nc state.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37295 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 7:03 am to
What if any coach doesn't do well? They get canned, hodor.

Dumb thread or dumb attempt at trolling.

Posted by Choctaw Hog
Member since Nov 2006
7586 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 7:05 am to
Your assertion that Bielema's system is a disaster illustrates your total ignorance about football. But, to answer your question if Bielema's "system" doesn't work, he will likely get 4-5 years to prove it doesn't, Arkansas will do like most other schools, hire another coach.

It's no more complicated that that and it's the same thing Michigan would do if Hoke's system doesn't work. Fear not though Bielema and staff is recruiting better than any coach ever has at Arkansas and that bodes well for the Hogs.

I personally like Bielema, his style of football and I'm confident he will have the Razorbacks competitive sooner rather than later. Thanks for your concern about Arkansas Football.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 7:06 am to
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Fear not though Bielema and staff is recruiting better than any coach ever has at Arkansas


Can't be true.
Posted by DocHog
Member since Nov 2006
1915 posts
Posted on 7/29/14 at 7:07 am to
If he wins, he stays; if he loses, he goes(probably back to the Big 10.)

Personally, I think he will get us to the 8 wins per yr level a la Houston Nutt. I hope I am wrong.

Personally, I wanted Briles, but I know that none of the SEC teams hunting for a coach that yr were ever seriously in the hunt to land him.

I would also loved to get Coach "I'm a man; I'm 40."
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