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Were the Gamecocks given the easiest path to Omaha?

Posted on 5/27/14 at 6:27 pm
Posted by theGarnetWay
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 6:27 pm
Pretty short, but good, article on how SC may have been fortunate not to get that national seed given the tough roads given to those that did get one.

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Sometimes, the greatest blessings come from the prayers that go unanswered.

Coming off its repulsive play in Hoover, No. 18 South Carolina was denied a national seed, demoted in the national polls and forced to let the NCAA Tournament committee decide its fate.

Thank goodness for that.

South Carolina has had a flair for the dramatic this season, including this game-winning home run by Jordan Gore against Tennessee in March.
Given how many of the national seeds were treated with their Super Regional pairings - Oregon State with LSU, Florida with Miami, Louisiana-Lafayette with red-hot Mississippi State in its own regional before potentially facing an angry Ole Miss team - a strong case can be made that the Gamecocks' punishment for their play in the SEC Tournament was being awarded the easiest bracket of the entire NCAA tournament.

Think, if South Carolina could pick which team it wanted to play from the national seeds, there's no question it'd be the Cavaliers, and not only because Virginia lost four of its final six games, including a road series at Wake Forest and a 1-2 record at the ACC Tournament. It'd be because the Gamecocks have Virginia's number in postseason play.

Back in 2006, South Carolina defeated Virginia and won the Charlottesville Regional before losing in the Super Regionals to Georgia in Athens. In 2012, the Gamecocks were matched up with the Cavaliers just like this year and would have had to travel to play UVA in Charlottesville for the Super Regional until Oklahoma won it as a No. 2 seed and came to Columbia for the Super Regional where the Sooners became victims of USC's record-setting NCAA winning streak.

And of course, no Gamecock fan alive can or will ever forget South Carolina's two thrilling wins over Virginia in Omaha en route to the 2011 title, the second a 13-inning affair that still defies description.

There's also no guarantee the Cavaliers will escape their own regional, what with in-state rival and South Carolina official partner Liberty in the field (should Liberty somehow win that regional, Jim Toman should be given a parade down Main Street for what he'd have done in consecutive years to help the Gamecocks advance, whipping Clemson in Columbia a year ago) and an Arkansas team that can match anyone arm for arm.

But what about the Columbia regional?

Cake, meet walk.

The combined number of NCAA Tournament appearances between first-round foe Campbell and No. 2 seed Maryland is six. USC has been 30 times. The third team, Old Dominion, hasn't made the NCAAs in nearly 15 years, and do you think USC pitching coach Jerry Meyers, who was head coach at ODU from 2005-2010, might not be a tad bit motivated to play his old school should they meet?

Maryland broke a school record for wins in a season this year - with 36. South Carolina has won 40 or more games for 15 consecutive seasons. The last time the Terps were in the NCAA Tournament, American troops were still in Vietnam (1971). Campbell hasn't been to the NCAAs in 23 years.

The combined number of years since the Gamecocks' Columbia Regional foes have been to the NCAAs? A stunning 78.

Of course, anything can happen in the NCAA Tournament, but I don't see a weaker bracket in the entire 64-team tournament than the Columbia regional.

For a team that looked as bad as a baseball team can in depressing losses to Mississippi State and Florida, the Gamecocks came home to an NCAA bracket that looks - on the surface, at least - like the easiest route to Omaha of any team in the nation.

Let the real tournament begin.


And to Arkansas fans, I forgot about that Regional win we had @UVA in 2006. Looks like we started the SEC dominance over Cavalier baseball after all.



eta: Truth be told I'm worried about inconsistent hitting to get past UVA on the road but we're healing up at the right time.
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 6:28 pm
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 6:28 pm to
No. Miami was IMO. Easiest regional and they were matched up with a team for a Super Regional that they've already beaten in a series this year.
Posted by TigerBait2008
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 6:29 pm to
Better hope the players don't have your attitude..
Posted by CayceCock13
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 6:29 pm to
If we have to go to UVA then no, if UVA gets upsetted in the Regional and we move on to the Supers then maybe.
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 6:30 pm
Posted by 4CEofN8URE
NOLA
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 6:31 pm to
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Oregon State with LSU


This is wrong
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25849 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 6:31 pm to
The only team I'm worried about pushing us to a regional title game is Maryland. They seem to be streaking at the right time, made it to the finals of the ACC tournament before losing and won their last 9 regular season agmes.

They seem to be up and down this year. Have some pretty good wins in conference but also some horrid losses.
Posted by CayceCock13
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 6:33 pm to
Yeah I've heard Marylands been up & down, I know that Campbell has some decent arms for instance their #1 guy has a career record of 18-3 & their #2 is 7-0 this year, plus they have an All-American Closer in the back of the pen as well. They'll give us a good game on Friday imo.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 6:45 pm to
I'm happy we finally ended-up in one of the weaker brackets for a change because, historically, it has not been that way for the better part of the past thirty years or more.

Now my hope is that we take advantage of that and earn our way back to Omaha.

You just never know what is going to happen in a regional or super regional. I can remember not all that long ago when La La sent us home in our own super regional.

ETA: I took my family to UVA for the 2006 regional and I have no reservations saying their fans suck. Snooty, pink wavingest bunch of college baseball fans, what few there were, I've ever been around.

We had more fans there than they did, at their own park. And their fans were constantly RAing the stadium security staff claiming we were being loud and obnoxious, or yelling too loud, for our players.
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 6:48 pm
Posted by CayceCock13
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 6:47 pm to
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I can remember not all that long ago when La La sent us home in our own super regional.


I was there for that, terrible memories.

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You just never know what is going to happen in a regional or super regional.


This, gotta take everyone seriously if you made it in the tourney then most likely you're decent. Anything can happen in baseball.
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 6:49 pm
Posted by Bulldog288
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 6:51 pm to
MSU
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:03 pm to
Did Holbrook leave?
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:09 pm to
I thought we had a pretty easy path when I first saw the bracket.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 7:29 pm to
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I was there for that, terrible memories


I was too. But let's admit, La La had maybe one of the finest pitching staffs ever assembled on one college team in the country that year. I think someone said three of them went in the first ten rounds of the draft and another three went before the next 15 or 20.

They had an amazing staff that year, 2000. I wanna say were were the number one seed maybe that year and had already one 52 games by the time the Super rolled around.

La La eliminated the taters in Omaha that year after the taterheads had given us so much shyte about losing to them, then I think Stanford took-out La La in the semis before LSU took care of business in the finals.

We went to Athens in 2006 for the Supers and that was the old bats where a lot or runs were scored. I wanna say maybe that first game against UGA we hit back-to-back-to-back-to-back homers and just missed hitting five in a row by inches.
Posted by CockRocket
Columbia, SC
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:15 pm to
A lot of what you bolded in the quote has nothing to do with the upcoming games. As Gamecocks, we should understand that history doesn't suit up and play 1st base and the amount of NCAA Tournament appearances doesn't pitch or catch.
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Maryland broke a school record for wins in a season this year - with 36. South Carolina has won 40 or more games for 15 consecutive seasons.
Well, what if this is the year Maryland sets their school record for wins in a season at 42?

Obviously having a team with high stakes postseason experience is important but we aren't invincible just because of what we did in years past.
Posted by Drewbie
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:19 pm to
I wouldn't consider having a team that you're 1-5 against the past two years on the opposing side of the bracket an easy path. Cock fans better pray UVA is the team coming out of the regional.
Posted by JPLSU1981
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Member since Oct 2005
26233 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:20 pm to
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Given how many of the national seeds were treated with their Super Regional pairings - Oregon State with LSU,



Ummmm....LSU has Houston then Rice/Texas in Supers...


That said, I don't think USC has an easy path at all..regional is a cakewalk but then Arky or @UVA...two solid teams that know how to get to Omaha.

Is it one of the harder paths to Omaha? No. But it's definitely not the easiest. I prefer having teams standing in the way with little experience getting to CWS (examples(not necessarily from this year): OSU, Oklahoma, VaTech, Washington, ULL, OleMiss, TexasTech, etc)
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 8:26 pm
Posted by Vanilla Coke
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:24 pm to
schedule thread.
Posted by Chris_topher
Member since Sep 2012
7674 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:27 pm to
Georgia Tech & Maryland should have swapped regionals but for some reason they wanted to make SCAR's lite
This post was edited on 5/27/14 at 8:28 pm
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:28 pm to
TLDR

But the short answer is it does not matter they will lose anyway.
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
25849 posts
Posted on 5/27/14 at 8:32 pm to
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As Gamecocks, we should understand that history doesn't suit up and play 1st base and the amount of NCAA Tournament appearances doesn't pitch or catch.


I think I'd rather face a team with no experience in the setting than a team with a lot of it. Wouldn't you?

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I wouldn't consider having a team that you're 1-5 against the past two years on the opposing side of the bracket an easy path.


Not worried, we beat Arkansas when it matters in baseball iirc.
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