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re: Want to know why Tennessee has been historically bad recently?
Posted on 2/17/13 at 11:26 pm to Wolfhound45
Posted on 2/17/13 at 11:26 pm to Wolfhound45
Tennessee is got a long way to go to come back, not to mention when they are good they almost always play second fiddle to a better team. Spurrier was their Daddy for years then Mark Richt and now everybody passes them around!
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Posted on 2/17/13 at 11:37 pm to bigpapamac
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Oh ok, football. I wasn't sure which sport this was about when I clicked.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 5:38 am to volfan30
Damnit 30, you know nothing good will come of this thread.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:00 am to volfan30
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Want to know why Tennessee has been hist
NOPE. I historically couldn't give a frick less about Tenn
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:24 am to Crompdaddy8
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your school is in terrible recruiting territory.
it's not as bad as some people make it out to be. sure it's not Georgia or Florida. Alabama isn't exactly gold mine either but they're winning even when they're sharing with other power house program in the state.
We're not talking about the high school talent in Tennessee. We're talking about the actual location of the University of Tennessee. Recruits don't wanna live in east Tennessee any more. Kids from Memphis would rather sign with Ole Miss or Arkansas than Tennessee. Talent from Florida would rather move one state north than two states north.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:27 am to volfan30
Can we thrown in your DBs RBs and OL while we're at it?
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:36 am to DCRebel
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We're not talking about the high school talent in Tennessee. We're talking about the actual location of the University of Tennessee. Recruits don't wanna live in east Tennessee any more. Kids from Memphis would rather sign with Ole Miss or Arkansas than Tennessee. Talent from Florida would rather move one state north than two states north.
you're acting like Tennessee is located in Indiana or something.
only 3 hours away from gold mine metro Atlanta. state of North Carolina is loaded with elite recruits and East Tennessee is located right next to them. Alabama and South Carolina isn't too far away either. with close proximity to loaded Georgia and North Carolina it's an awesome location if you're winning. (keywords: if you're winning)
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:39 am to Crompdaddy8
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Alabama isn't exactly gold mine either but they're winning even when they're sharing with other power house program in the state.
When's the last time the state of Tennessee produced a player as good as Julio Jones or T.J. Yeldon?
Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:42 am to DCRebel
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We're not talking about the high school talent in Tennessee. We're talking about the actual location of the University of Tennessee. Recruits don't wanna live in east Tennessee any more. Kids from Memphis would rather sign with Ole Miss or Arkansas than Tennessee. Talent from Florida would rather move one state north than two states north
Knoxville > Oxford ./thread
As far as Campuses go, we're definitely mid/lower table.
As far as the area and overall city.. Location, Population, Distance , and outdoor beauty ( Smokys + 100's of lakes and rivers ). Knoxville is one of the premier locations in the south to have a Major campus located in it.Urban for the city boys or really Rugged for the mountain guys. Knoxville and the smokies are like Fayettville and the Ozarks.. just 1000x prettier and better in every facet
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Posted on 2/18/13 at 10:47 am to TRUERockyTop
it's all about having the right coach and winning. winning will cure all.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:08 am to Crompdaddy8
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it's all about having the right coach
When will Tennessee get the right coach?
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:18 am to Crompdaddy8
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you're acting like Tennessee is located in Indiana or something.
My point still remains. There's a reason y'all have to have a huge recruiting budget, and that's because you have to search far and wide for talent.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:18 am to Crompdaddy8
But you can't win without good players in this conference.
Not consistently. Because there are too many other teams with good coaches AND good players.
Honestly, UT's year was last year. They HAD to win last year. They had the offense to do it, and had they not fired their DC, I think we would have seen the defense be pretty decent as well.
Not consistently. Because there are too many other teams with good coaches AND good players.
Honestly, UT's year was last year. They HAD to win last year. They had the offense to do it, and had they not fired their DC, I think we would have seen the defense be pretty decent as well.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:19 am to TRUERockyTop
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We're not talking about the high school talent in Tennessee. We're talking about the actual location of the University of Tennessee. Recruits don't wanna live in east Tennessee any more. Kids from Memphis would rather sign with Ole Miss or Arkansas than Tennessee. Talent from Florida would rather move one state north than two states north
Knoxville > Oxford ./thread
As far as Campuses go, we're definitely mid/lower table.
As far as the area and overall city.. Location, Population, Distance , and outdoor beauty ( Smokys + 100's of lakes and rivers ). Knoxville is one of the premier locations in the south to have a Major campus located in it.Urban for the city boys or really Rugged for the mountain guys. Knoxville and the smokies are like Fayettville and the Ozarks.. just 1000x prettier and better in every facet
Bringing up that your campus is as pretty as Fayetteville doesn't help your cause, it's not like Arky is a recruiting giant. Knoxville is a great town but it is still culturally different than where most of the recruits grow up. Personally I would love it there but I'm not your target.
It's also true that the big hotbed of talent in Tenn seems to be Memphis which might as well not even be in Tennessee because of the distance. It's just as close to a ton of other SEC programs.
The biggest thing that has hurt UT though is the rise of so many others. USC, and UGA to go with UF along with all the West powers make it harder for UT to come in and grab recruits like they used to. The SEC is just loaded with quality programs now and being great isn't even good enough, if you aren't winning you will get pounded. A great coach will turn it around though. UT is still a historic power with a lot of tradition and character. The money issues are all related to the recent record but soon the SEC TV money will be enough to nullify it.
Just a lot of bad decisions at UT that you have to dig yourself out of. UT kind of reminds me of when A&M got rid of Fran. A program with a ton of potential and good history that made a lot of bad decisions to the point that people had started to forget what they had done. It's a blessing and a curse that college football can be determined by the whims of where 17 year olds want to play. A few bad years and all of a sudden they were in elementary school since the last time you were good. For instance from '84-02 A&M didn't have a winning season and won 7 Conference Titles but to people under 30 it was as though we hadn't ever done anything.
You will be fine though. A winning program at UT is more attractive than a winning program at a lot of other SEC schools. A losing program at UT though will get kicked around by winning SEC programs, that's just the game.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:19 am to TRUERockyTop
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Knoxville > Oxford ./thread
In what, the number of Waffle Houses? Yeah, you fricking got us there.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:20 am to Crompdaddy8
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it's not as bad as some people make it out to be. sure it's not Georgia or Florida. Alabama isn't exactly gold mine either but they're winning even when they're sharing with other power house program in the state.
Class of 2014 Rivals100
12 from FL
10 from GA
5 from AL
5 from LA
4 from TN
4 from SC
1 from AR
0 from KY
0 from MS
Those four from SC were all SC and CU rejects who had committed to ECU, are they not?
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:21 am to TRUERockyTop
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Smokys + 100's of lakes and rivers
Yeah, because football recruits give a shite about mountains and bodies of water.
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Urban for the city boys
Knoxville is as "urban" as Jackson, Mississippi.
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Knoxville and the smokies are like Fayettville and the Ozarks
Look, I love the Smoky Mountains. I absolutely do. But if you think that the fricking Smokies are an asset to Tennessee Volunteers football recruiting, then you're an idiot.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:22 am to aggressor
Tennessee's fall coincides with the rise of LSU and Georgia. In the 1990s, when they dominated, the SEC was a three-team league: Florida, Tennessee, and (to a lesser extent) Alabama. Those were your only consistent Top 15 teams. It's easier for a program like Tennessee to recruit when so many other programs are down in the dumps.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:23 am to Bench McElroy
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When's the last time the state of Tennessee produced a player as good as Julio Jones or T.J. Yeldon?
Patrick Willis, Michael oher, Frank Herron?
UT needs to get into Memphis. I know Oxford is close, but shreveport ain't far from Austin or Fayetteville but we still own it in recruiting.
There is enough talent in that state that owning it+getting some oos guys in a talent rich region should be easy to get back near the top in the east.
Posted on 2/18/13 at 11:24 am to DCRebel
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In what, the number of Waffle Houses? Yeah, you fricking got us there.
Knoxville is where food goes to die.
I do like Waffle House, though.
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