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re: Very early look at 2017-18 SEC hoops (KenPom)

Posted on 3/26/17 at 5:34 pm to
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 5:34 pm to
I think Arkansas will be good enough next year to contend for the league regular season title. If Gafford is as good as advertised, then that will be a huge plus.

Return: Barford, Macon, Thomas, Thompson, Cook, Beard, Bailey, and CJ Jones. Add in the two top 100 ESPN newcomers and it should be a pretty deep team. Great guard play with bigs who can dish the ball, rebound, and hit an outside jumper.
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 5:35 pm to
USC will look different next season: they are losing three very impactful seniors this season - well, two definitely in Thornwell and Notice. Thornwell was the team's leading scorer and rebounder, and definite leader when it came to heart and effort. Notice was a dbl-digit scorer and along with Thornwell one of the team's top 2 defenders....

But thing was, last season USC lost it's top scorer, rebounder, and and big-heart and effort guy in Michael Carrera as well. Also lost two other starters in Chatkevicius and Kacinas who were dbl-digit scorers and along with Carrera were 3 of the team's top 4 rebounders (the 4th being Thornwell).

The team also lost 5 other role players to dismissals/transfers, so this season's team had a lot of returners as starters, but a totally new bench of inexperience and youth.

Silva has shown he can be a major player as long as he can stay on the floor. Towards the end of the season and the NCAA, he's shown improvement there. Dozier averaged 20 ppg during the 6-game stretch that Thornwell was suspended, and is also improved substantially defensively.

Kotsar showed freshman inexperience and a lack of physical development for a post player, but also has obvious offensive post moves and an off-season in the S&C program could do wonders for him. Felder was averaging 10.3 ppg in the first 3 NCAAT gms before shooting a blank in today's game, but he's a cocky kid from Brooklyn that isn't intimidated by anything.

USC also has a transfer who is red-shirting this season named Kory Holden who comes from Delaware who averaged 18 ppg there, and is a solid scorer.

This team gets what CFM and his staff try to teach much better than his early USC teams, and started to "get it" 2 seasons ago when they went 17-16. Next season Dozier may end up as a candidate All-SEC 1st Team, if not for SEC POTY....


The big thing is what this run in the NCAAT will do for future recruiting. SC produces quality talent that lately have been going out of state (Peak to Georgetown, Mack to Texas, Woods to UNC) because in-state programs haven't won on the big stage. Not anymore.....



Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40948 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 5:37 pm to
Tennessee is a team I would likely have lower than 8th tbh.

KenPom absolutely loves Fulkerson (big loss for us this year when he got hurt in December) and Williams down low but Tennessee will likely be starting 3 sophomores and 2 redshirt freshmen which could be dangerous in a league like this. The youth and guard play are both very scary.

Tennessee needs to find a way to beat a couple of UNC/Nova/Zona/GT/Wake in the OOC or it could be another .500 type season imo.
This post was edited on 3/26/17 at 5:38 pm
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 5:38 pm to
Same thoughts as well. We are always picked 8th or 9th.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 5:53 pm to
Hopefully we are not starting Sims at the 4.
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 6:05 pm to
Early season the SEC needs to perform well to back up this NCAAt run. Florida and Arkansas will both have great chances in Portland in the Knight tourney.

Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40948 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 7:20 pm to
Agreed. Interested to see the OOC schedules. Hopefully everyone has a marquee game or two.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 7:27 pm to
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volfan30


That's awesome man - really good stuff.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 7:47 pm to
Hopefully we can take a another step next year and get back to the tourney at the very least. With what we have back and the pieces we are adding, not dancing next year really would be inexcusable. I think I also read we are doing the international trip this summer which should give our new guys extra chances to gel early and start to define roles.
This post was edited on 3/26/17 at 7:48 pm
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 5:38 pm to
I find it hard to fathom AU would finish next season at #12. It's possible, sure, but it's more probable that AU is much improved.
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
40948 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 5:54 pm to
Very likely AU will be improved, but who in the SEC is expected to take a step back? UK probably worse than 16-2. UGA and Vandy could conceivably be worse. South Carolina maybe isn't quite as good without Thornwell and Notice. Everyone else should be better.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 3/27/17 at 5:56 pm to
quote:

Florida and Arkansas will both have great chances in Portland in the Knight tourney.


Actually looking forward to them announcing the schedule for this
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