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Vanderbilt fans thoughts on Derek Mason
Posted on 1/19/16 at 8:48 am
Posted on 1/19/16 at 8:48 am
After Franklin, I would be pretty upset about Mason's performance but we haven't really seen him put on the hotseat yet. What're your thoughts on Mason? Is he loved by Vandy fans or do you desire more?
Posted on 1/19/16 at 8:51 am to Landmass
Shoulda asked this around 7pm. They're all at work right now.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:19 am to Landmass
I think he's done a good job. Franklin bombed the program before he left and never really built a solid foundation. Mason seems to be doing that.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:56 am to Landmass
If they can get some improved QB play I think Mason has them bowling next year.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 9:59 am to Landmass
I like him and think he can have success. It just takes longer at Vanderbilt than other schools. It was a mess after Franklin. He has good QB committed and is trending in the right direction. Patience is necessary.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:00 am to Landmass
He had them competing in many games that shouldn't have really been close.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:03 am to Landmass
They'll probably be back to beating Ole Miss regularly next year.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:05 am to rockiee
They're all busy jerking each other off over time hart getting processed and saying bad things about Tennessee. They're the real life cajunbama's, they care way less about their team than all things Tennessee.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:12 am to GnashRebel
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I like him and think he can have success. It just takes longer at Vanderbilt than other schools. It was a mess after Franklin. He has good QB committed and is trending in the right direction. Patience is necessary.
This in a nutshell.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:12 am to SouthOfHere
I'm shocked you think that
Posted on 1/19/16 at 10:45 am to Landmass
Definitely liked. They improved tremendously this year. He seems to be a great recruiter and players really like him.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 11:38 am to REG861
His first season was an unmitigated disaster than came about because of a few reasons:
1. He was learning on the job - hiring coordinators is always risky but Mason wasn't ready to be a HC from an organizational standpoint. It looks like he's improving there.
2. Timing - Following Franklin's success nearly anyone VU could bring in would have not done as well with what Vandy lost to graduation after 2013.
3. Initial Coordinator Hires - Also plays into #2, Franklin waited so late to take the PSU job that by the time Mason was hired we were 2 weeks from signing day and he had even less time to throw together a coaching staff. Leading to the horrible hiring of Karl Dorrell & to a lesser extent Kotulski. His first strength coach Hugahan was also a disaster bigger than Dorrell which is really saying something. Hiring Nebraska's strength coach after Pelini was let go made a big difference in that department.
He took a lot of steps to correct those mistakes and it did show itself on the field quite a bit in 2015. The defense after Mason took over play calling was one of the 5 most improved units in the country this season & has a ton of the top 22 returning. Defensive performance fell off at the end of the season but with the whole team leaning on them all year they wore down.
Looks like Vandy has a QB in Kyle Shurmur who did well for a true freshmen with limited WRs. OL should be better with both starting OTs back after missing most of year with injury, RB is solid with Webb and TEs were pretty good. ST has to get better, even with the poor offense ST mistakes cost VU a 6-6 bowl season in 2015 & as a result the ST coordinator was fired.
1. He was learning on the job - hiring coordinators is always risky but Mason wasn't ready to be a HC from an organizational standpoint. It looks like he's improving there.
2. Timing - Following Franklin's success nearly anyone VU could bring in would have not done as well with what Vandy lost to graduation after 2013.
3. Initial Coordinator Hires - Also plays into #2, Franklin waited so late to take the PSU job that by the time Mason was hired we were 2 weeks from signing day and he had even less time to throw together a coaching staff. Leading to the horrible hiring of Karl Dorrell & to a lesser extent Kotulski. His first strength coach Hugahan was also a disaster bigger than Dorrell which is really saying something. Hiring Nebraska's strength coach after Pelini was let go made a big difference in that department.
He took a lot of steps to correct those mistakes and it did show itself on the field quite a bit in 2015. The defense after Mason took over play calling was one of the 5 most improved units in the country this season & has a ton of the top 22 returning. Defensive performance fell off at the end of the season but with the whole team leaning on them all year they wore down.
Looks like Vandy has a QB in Kyle Shurmur who did well for a true freshmen with limited WRs. OL should be better with both starting OTs back after missing most of year with injury, RB is solid with Webb and TEs were pretty good. ST has to get better, even with the poor offense ST mistakes cost VU a 6-6 bowl season in 2015 & as a result the ST coordinator was fired.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 12:18 pm to REG861
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He seems to be a great recruiter and players really like him
The handful of times I've seen him on SECN directing practice and such I've been extremely impressed. He comes across as being very put together during his interviews and media appearances. I could see why kids would enjoy playing for him.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 12:20 pm to auzach91
Always thought it was a fish out of water hire.
I get the Stanford/Vandy academic type hire with the success on that staff at Stanford but Mason would have been better staying out on west coast. I think he's a quality defensive coach that is similar to Muschamp, no clue on offense.
I get the Stanford/Vandy academic type hire with the success on that staff at Stanford but Mason would have been better staying out on west coast. I think he's a quality defensive coach that is similar to Muschamp, no clue on offense.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 12:25 pm to themicah85
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themicah85
And here we have the only human on this board who is rustled by Vandy, everyone remember this moment
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:34 pm to themicah85
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themicah85
Show me on the doll where the commodores touched you
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:42 pm to Scoreboard
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Sucks
He's no Franklin where we're beating yall 41-18, but he certainly doesn't suck
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:47 pm to REG861
Vandy is lucky to be allowed to stay in the SEC, being propped up by all the money that every other school brings in.
Posted on 1/19/16 at 1:51 pm to sullivanct19a
typical Florida trash
They need a school like Vanderbilt with successful alumni to counterbalance your school's 'product.' Can't have the SEC being represented by jorts.
This post was edited on 1/19/16 at 1:55 pm
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