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US Appeals Court Rules that NCAA Violated Antitrust Law
Posted on 9/30/15 at 10:34 am
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The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit on Wednesday upheld a lower court's decision that National Collegiate Athletic Association rules that limit what college athletes can be paid violate antitrust laws. But the appeals court tossed out the original judge's recommendation that athletes receive deferred compensation of up to $5,000 per year.
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The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit on Wednesday upheld a lower court's decision that National Collegiate Athletic Association rules that limit what college athletes can be paid violate antitrust laws. But the appeals court tossed out the original judge's recommendation that athletes receive deferred compensation of up to $5,000 per year.
Story is breaking. More to come.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 10:35 am to anc
Tell us what we all want to know, Will we get a NCAA Football 17?
This post was edited on 9/30/15 at 10:36 am
Posted on 9/30/15 at 10:36 am to dhuck20
I want a damn game that has the playoffs in it dammit.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 10:37 am to dhuck20
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Tell us what we all want to know, Will we get a NCAA Football 17?
No, but we are also unlikely to get paid athletes, which is good for college sports.
In this case, the NCAA's rules have been more restrictive than necessary to maintain its tradition of amateurism in support of the college sports market. The Rule of Reason requires that the NCAA permit its schools to provide up to the cost of attendance to their student athletes. It does not require more.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 10:41 am to anc
quote:What is this really, though? Is there a set number? Do athletes just get enough to go to the dining hall and that's it?
cost of attendance
I understand that we're not going to have money negotiations in a high school coach's office but is it really as simple as saying "cost of attendance" is taken care of?
Posted on 9/30/15 at 10:52 am to dhuck20
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What is this really, though? Is there a set number? Do athletes just get enough to go to the dining hall and that's it?
I understand that we're not going to have money negotiations in a high school coach's office but is it really as simple as saying "cost of attendance" is taken care of?
Traditionally, cost of attendance means that the scholarship is for the dining hall meal plan, but the school is allowed to give the value of the meal plan in lieu of a meal plan.
For example, here is LSU's official cost of attendance: LINK
Tuition and fees are paid to the university, because a student-athlete can't participate if they aren't enrolled as full-time students.
Housing is paid to the university, as most student-athletes live in dorms. Some schools allow upperclassmen to live off campus, and this money can be given to the student for those expenses. Meal plan is the same way.
Books and supplies are typically provided to the student-athlete in the form of book rental (because of the book buy back scheme that happened a few years ago)
If you look at Vanderbilt: LINK
You will see that the COA outside of tuition is only $3,600 more than LSU, but Nashville housing is more expensive.
At Georgia ( LINK, COA is considered $1100 or so more than LSU.
This decision basically says that schools are not obligated to give more than cost of attendance.
This post was edited on 9/30/15 at 10:57 am
Posted on 9/30/15 at 11:10 am to anc
Does this mean that Tunsil can start on Saturday?
Posted on 9/30/15 at 11:14 am to anc
After seeing my nephew play 2K16 it made me want to go punch the Ed O'Bannon in his damn face.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 11:15 am to anc
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anc
You a lawyer?
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 11:21 am to anc
If this stands, seems like some of the smaller schools that are already losing money will be forced to reduce the number of programs and such.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 11:25 am to CNB
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CNB
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playoffs
With your skills, I'm not sure it matters.
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Posted on 9/30/15 at 11:26 am to anc
Did they say anything about loaner car penalties getting expunged? Asking for a friend.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 11:27 am to cokebottleag
I do just fine in offline mode TYVM
Posted on 9/30/15 at 11:31 am to WiredToTheJD
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You a lawyer?
Nope. I'm a higher ed administrator.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 11:45 am to Diamondawg
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If this stands, seems like some of the smaller schools that are already losing money will be forced to reduce the number of programs and such.
Definitely correct here. The landscape of higher education funding is pretty much taking a toll on the low Division I/FCS/Division II model. I think you are going to see a bunch of Division II and FCS schools go to the Division III model (no athletic scholarships) in the next 10 years and let the junior college ranks handle the marginal players.
I'm not picking on a particular school, but a school like ULM just can't continue playing FBS football in this world. This will make FCS better. Conversely, a school like North Dakota State or Montana, with Division I-like alumni bases and fan support may find it better to move to FBS.
I foresee about 75 schools playing "major college football" in the next few years. Here are the top 10 schools as far as losing money that compete in the FBS.
1. UNLV lost $35 million
2. Houston lost $27 million
3. Air Force lost $26 million
4. Old Dominion lost $25 million
5. UMass lost $25 million
6. UCF lost $23 million
7. Georgia State lost $23 million
8. Eastern Michigan lost $22 million
9. Buffalo lost $22 million
10. Western Michigan lost $21 million
The only surprise on that list is UCF, but they just don't have the support. The school itself was founded in 1968. Floridians just don't grow up being Golden Knights.
The point is that these smaller schools simply can't go on losing money like this. Most of these schools are taxpayer supported as well. Political climate is changing big time around higher ed.
Again, I think we will have another round of conference realignment that will include "division shift." About 75 schools will end up in the top division. I think all Power 5 schools are safe (66 schools) but 8-10 more will continue.
Safe bets are Notre Dame, BYU and the three major service academies. But what other 4-5?
Boise State? They lost $12 million last year.
If I had to pick four right now, it would be:
Memphis and Cincy joining the Big 12 and building a bridge from West Virginia to the heartland.
North Dakota State finally moving up - possibly to the Big 12.
A fourth team is difficult to pick. Louisiana Tech, East Carolina, South Florida - all fairly healthy choices. It would depend on conference shakedown. If NC State and Virginia Tech jumped to the SEC, USF and ECU would be prime targets for the ACC.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 11:48 am to anc
Paying players unequally is such a terrible idea. If you're going to pay college athletes, you pay each of them a flat sum.
I don't think they should be payed at all. Free room and board, food, and education are more than enough IMO.
I don't think they should be payed at all. Free room and board, food, and education are more than enough IMO.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 2:47 pm to anc
quote:The economy will decide which schools survive.
Definitely correct here. The landscape of higher education funding is pretty much taking a toll on the low Division I/FCS/Division II model. I think you are going to see a bunch of Division II and FCS schools go to the Division III model (no athletic scholarships) in the next 10 years and let the junior college ranks handle the marginal players.
I'm not picking on a particular school, but a school like ULM just can't continue playing FBS football in this world. This will make FCS better. Conversely, a school like North Dakota State or Montana, with Division I-like alumni bases and fan support may find it better to move to FBS.
I foresee about 75 schools playing "major college football" in the next few years. Here are the top 10 schools as far as losing money that compete in the FBS.
1. UNLV lost $35 million
2. Houston lost $27 million
3. Air Force lost $26 million
4. Old Dominion lost $25 million
5. UMass lost $25 million
6. UCF lost $23 million
7. Georgia State lost $23 million
8. Eastern Michigan lost $22 million
9. Buffalo lost $22 million
10. Western Michigan lost $21 million
The only surprise on that list is UCF, but they just don't have the support. The school itself was founded in 1968. Floridians just don't grow up being Golden Knights.
The point is that these smaller schools simply can't go on losing money like this. Most of these schools are taxpayer supported as well. Political climate is changing big time around higher ed.
Again, I think we will have another round of conference realignment that will include "division shift." About 75 schools will end up in the top division. I think all Power 5 schools are safe (66 schools) but 8-10 more will continue.
Safe bets are Notre Dame, BYU and the three major service academies. But what other 4-5?
Boise State? They lost $12 million last year.
If I had to pick four right now, it would be:
Memphis and Cincy joining the Big 12 and building a bridge from West Virginia to the heartland.
North Dakota State finally moving up - possibly to the Big 12.
A fourth team is difficult to pick. Louisiana Tech, East Carolina, South Florida - all fairly healthy choices. It would depend on conference shakedown. If NC State and Virginia Tech jumped to the SEC, USF and ECU would be prime targets for the ACC.
Posted on 9/30/15 at 2:50 pm to RB10
quote:So they all should get the same even though some programs earn a whole lot more than others? See the problem starts with Title IV, paying the soccer chicks and volley ball chicks makes things tougher.
Paying players unequally is such a terrible idea. If you're going to pay college athletes, you pay each of them a flat sum.
I don't think they should be payed at all. Free room and board, food, and education are more than enough IMO.
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