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re: UGA at Ole Miss Sept 24, 2016
Posted on 2/5/16 at 10:58 am to djsdawg
Posted on 2/5/16 at 10:58 am to djsdawg
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and that link makes drew look bad
Maybe he's Nostradawgmus and he's got some intel, but from a strictly medical standpoint, there's no scenario where Gurley's injury is definitely "worse" than Chubb's. While an ACL tear vs a strict PCL *or* MCL tear is typically a more severe injury, damage to multiple ligaments and surrounding connective tissue makes it difficult to assess. Chubb tore his PCL along with two other ligaments, according to his mother... so while *just* the PCL would be a shorter rehab (usually), the additional unspecified ligaments make it pretty challenging to say with any degree of certainty that Gurley's was worse than Chubb's. At this point, I don't really care which was worse, simply that I want him to have a full recovery, have a great season with the dawgs and then go get paid, because he's an amazingly talented RB and a better human being. 
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Posted on 2/5/16 at 11:08 am to fibonaccisquared
You make a good point. 3 is worse than 1.
His lack of reading comprehension was the worst look.
His lack of reading comprehension was the worst look.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 11:29 am to djsdawg
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His lack of reading comprehension was the worst look.
First off, I have perfect reading comprehension, but nice try. That link shows me making valid points, but I would expect someone like you not to understand.
I clearly stated why Gurley's injury is considered worse, an ACL tear vs a PCL is considered worse. As has been stated, with Chubb tearing the other 2 you could say they are about even, but Chubb's is definitely not worse. The only reason Chubb's would have definitely been worse is if there was nerve damage, which there is not.
The rate at which Chubb has recovered is simply amazing, and he is so far ahead of the game that him being ready for our game at UNC is not only possible, but it is probable.
Posted on 2/5/16 at 11:48 am to DrewDawg13
Your take on The link you provided within the link was a great example of poor reading comprehension.
If chubb is on Michael Bennett's recovery pace from April 3 years ago then we will have an example of acl tear = the other 3 tear. Until then, That can't be said. Btw, what's the name of your brilliant assistant trainer friend?
If chubb is on Michael Bennett's recovery pace from April 3 years ago then we will have an example of acl tear = the other 3 tear. Until then, That can't be said. Btw, what's the name of your brilliant assistant trainer friend?
Posted on 2/5/16 at 11:53 am to DrewDawg13
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but Chubb's is definitely not worse
You're stretching here. Rearranging that phrase makes it true:
"but Chubb's is not definitely worse"
You cannot definitively state this either way. Nerve damage definitely would have compounded the injury, but trying to make an assessment here without intimate knowledge of the situation is just silly.
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The rate at which Chubb has recovered is simply amazing
This is also accurate, but I've yet to see any sort of official statement that he's on track for the UNC game. I sure as hell hope so, and you may be right, but you keep touting this as fact, rather than opinion.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 1:52 am to fibonaccisquared
OM vs Ga actually happens this year!!! If you are coming over let me know. We'll figure out how to get together if you want to party.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 7:38 am to DrewDawg13
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That's not true. Chubb will be back in the first game. Bookmark it.
Gurley did walk off the field and walked into the locker room. Sure he may of had assistance walking off the field, but he did walk to the locker room without help on his torn ACL.
So again, Gurley's injury wasn't nearly as bad a Chubbs.
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Look at the beginning of the video, it shows him vs auburn, then it shows him walking off the field with a torn acl. How is this not true again? FYI, if you say something isn't true, you know, try to refute it with some facts or something. Come on now.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 7:47 am to fibonaccisquared
quote:That is why I would hate to rush him back too soon when we do not need him.
At this point, I don't really care which was worse, simply that I want him to have a full recovery, have a great season with the dawgs and then go get paid, because he's an amazingly talented RB and a better human being.
If we had chubb all year next year, at 100%, would we win the SEC or a Natty? I don't think so with our Oline and qb problems. Eason is the answer, but I don't see him playing better than Stafford or Murray as a freshman which is no knock on him, but more of how tough it is in the SEC.
So I do agree that we don't need to rush Chubb back too soon, as his future is in the NFL. I love UGA but I would rather Chubb to never play again at UGA if that means he can go on and have a healthy and great NFL career. Look at how K Marhsall has been since his injury.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 8:37 am to djsdawg
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Your take on The link you provided within the link was a great example of poor reading comprehension.
Not at all, you need to go back and re-read the thread.
Your example of Michael Bennett is very poorly worded and makes no sense. Please try and explain yourself again.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 8:42 am to fibonaccisquared
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You're stretching here.
Rearranging that phrase makes it true: "but Chubb's is not definitely worse"
You cannot definitively state this either way. Nerve damage definitely would have compounded the injury, but trying to make an assessment here without intimate knowledge of the situation is just silly.
Again, I'm explaining what I have been told. At this point, Chubb's injury is clearly not worse. This has been proven by how quickly he has recovered.
I also clearly said you could say the injuries are similar. You and several others have asserted that Chubb's injury IS worse, which according to you is silly.
I have stated what I have been told, and at this point, yes I do believe that he will be ready for the UNC game. Are they going to make this public?? Of course not. Anything could happen, and reinjuring a ligament is always a possibility. At the rate he is going now, Chubb will be ready for the first game.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 8:46 am to DawgGONIT
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Gurley did walk off the field and walked into the locker room. Sure he may of had assistance walking off the field, but he did walk to the locker room without help on his torn ACL.
So again, Gurley's injury wasn't nearly as bad a Chubbs. LINK
Look at the beginning of the video, it shows him vs auburn, then it shows him walking off the field with a torn acl. How is this not true again? FYI, if you say something isn't true, you know, try to refute it with some facts or something. Come on now.
FYI you are saying his injury is worse and all you are basing it off of is how they walked off the field?? You can possibly walk off the field with a significant ACL, but you probably can't with a hairline ankle fracture, now which one is worse?? That is why saying the state in which they walked off the field is indicative of their injury is ridiculous.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 8:51 am to matthew25
I do think OM will be favored but 8.5 is way too much. I'll speculate OM is a 4 point favorite at kickoff.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 9:16 am to beachreb61
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OM vs Ga actually happens this year!!! If you are coming over let me know. We'll figure out how to get together if you want to party.
Pretty stoked man. Part of me really does wish we'd move to a 9 game conference schedule just because it takes too damn long to go through our west rotation.
If it looks like I'm going to be able to make it, I'll probably post up on the Ole Miss boards.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 1:29 pm to DrewDawg13
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an ACL tear vs a PCL is considered worse.
Even if that's true, it's irrelevant because We are talking about chubb and gurley, which means the discussion is acl vs the other THREE combined:
- One acl procedure is very common, which means it has been fine tuned over years of work, and there are plenty of examples of quick success returns. We have a good idea how this will go.
- Combining the other three procedures is not common, which means it hasn't been fine tuned over years, and there are not plenty of examples of quick return success to point towards. It's more of an unknown as to how it will go. Injury to other ligaments drastically complicates a PCL's recovery.
This post was edited on 2/6/16 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 2/6/16 at 1:37 pm to DrewDawg13
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explaining what I have been told
Who told you? Let's see a name.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 1:54 pm to DrewDawg13
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First off, I have perfect reading comprehension
DJ is that you?
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You and several others have asserted that Chubb's injury IS worse, which according to you is silly.
Pretty certain I've not made this claim. Can you show me where I did? If so, I'll gladly admit I was inaccurate in that assessment. My take since the beginning is we've not been given enough information on Chubb's injury to ascertain whether it was worse, simply that it was different - as such, the recovery will have different ups/downs and different pitfalls that have to be accounted for.
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I have stated what I have been told, and at this point, yes I do believe that he will be ready for the UNC game. Are they going to make this public?? Of course not. Anything could happen, and reinjuring a ligament is always a possibility. At the rate he is going now, Chubb will be ready for the first game.
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That's not true. Chubb will be back in the first game. Bookmark it.
One of these things is not like the other. This is why you don't have many supporters on this stance. It's not that anyone is saying there is no chance, it's your stance that he'll definitely be back. You simply have no basis in fact to make the assertion because there are a lot of variables that are unknown.
Unrelated, it's amazing that a response troll thread to another troll thread is still going here. Some good natured commentary with UGA and Ole Miss fans, and DD missing the point... par for the course I suppose.
Posted on 2/6/16 at 1:57 pm to fibonaccisquared
Why are you name-dropping me in a completely unrelated thread? Yeah, I'm not in your head
This post was edited on 2/6/16 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 2/6/16 at 2:00 pm to Dustin Johnson
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in a completely unrelated thread
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UGA at Ole Miss Sept 24, 2016
Why would I mention an Ole Miss poster that has made similar claims in a thread about Ole Miss?
Posted on 2/6/16 at 4:11 pm to djsdawg
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Who told you? Let's see a name
Cason Dempsey
Posted on 2/6/16 at 4:16 pm to fibonaccisquared
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Pretty certain I've not made this claim. Can you show me where I did? If so, I'll gladly admit I was inaccurate in that assessment. My take since the beginning is we've not been given enough information on Chubb's injury to ascertain whether it was worse, simply that it was different - as such, the recovery will have different ups/downs and different pitfalls that have to be accounted for.
Maybe you haven't, sorry if I lumped you in, it's hard to remember everybody on here lol.
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One of these things is not like the other. This is why you don't have many supporters on this stance. It's not that anyone is saying there is no chance, it's your stance that he'll definitely be back. You simply have no basis in fact to make the assertion because there are a lot of variables that are unknown.
Please re-read what I said. When I say he will be back, of course that mean barring a reinjuring of a ligament.
The part about them making it public is based off of the same thing. They are not going to say it publicly that he will for sure go because we are 7 months out. However, if he continues on schedule then yes he will be in the first game.
But the UGA vs Ole Miss game is probably the game I am looking forward to the most next year.
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