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re: This year with Avery Johnson proves just how bad Anthony Grant was
Posted on 2/11/16 at 4:52 pm to 257WBY
Posted on 2/11/16 at 4:52 pm to 257WBY
I don't even know what that means. Football is big at Alabama, so that made him a shitty basketball coach? It's not like our basketball program has been terrible historically with no support.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 4:52 pm to GatorsGators
I agree with you about saying that Grant's certainly not an awful coach. I also agree that he could have won more with better players.
He actually had a pretty strong team when Green, Mitchell, Hillman etc were there even if those weren't his recruits and there was some depth to run his pressing defense.
I would also love to see him get another chance and succeed. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
However, I do think that potential success may come due to him growing as a head coach by addressing the things he could have done better at Alabama.
1) getting his players better organized on offense, looking confident and actually enjoying what they're doing
2) simply recruiting enough players to make a difference.
This last part may well be his reluctance to "get his hands" dirty in the recruiting meat market.
However, like I said earlier, all the previous Alabama coaches before him managed to always have a couple of high caliber big men (all SEC, at least borderline NBA talent) on the roster from the 1970s until he took over.
Five years was long enough to at least bring in one player that contributed to the level of which 2 or 3 had been doing on the roster for the previous 30 years.
He actually had a pretty strong team when Green, Mitchell, Hillman etc were there even if those weren't his recruits and there was some depth to run his pressing defense.
I would also love to see him get another chance and succeed. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
However, I do think that potential success may come due to him growing as a head coach by addressing the things he could have done better at Alabama.
1) getting his players better organized on offense, looking confident and actually enjoying what they're doing
2) simply recruiting enough players to make a difference.
This last part may well be his reluctance to "get his hands" dirty in the recruiting meat market.
However, like I said earlier, all the previous Alabama coaches before him managed to always have a couple of high caliber big men (all SEC, at least borderline NBA talent) on the roster from the 1970s until he took over.
Five years was long enough to at least bring in one player that contributed to the level of which 2 or 3 had been doing on the roster for the previous 30 years.
This post was edited on 2/11/16 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 2/11/16 at 4:56 pm to GatorsGators
I mean, if you followed it as closely as you're saying, you wouldn't be tossing around ridiculous assertions like the boosters did him in. You can try to justify it by saying it's that your 'perspective is different' but the thing is, it's not a defensible comment from any perspective. It's patently ridiculous.
The arrogance of some people man. He's in here arguing with like 10 diehard Alabama basketball fans that he knows more about our program than us. Unreal. I mean I started this thread defending Grant; you really haven't left us much of a choice here though with your ridiculous claims.
The arrogance of some people man. He's in here arguing with like 10 diehard Alabama basketball fans that he knows more about our program than us. Unreal. I mean I started this thread defending Grant; you really haven't left us much of a choice here though with your ridiculous claims.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 5:02 pm to aspiclark
quote:Get a grip, man. I'm not trying to claim that I know more about the program than you. I'm not trying to challenge you. I'm just sharing my opinions on Grant's failures, and I think I followed the program more than enough to not be talked down to like this when voicing those opinions.
The arrogance of some people man. He's in here arguing with like 10 diehard Alabama basketball fans that he knows more about our program than us. Unreal. I mean I started this thread defending Grant; you really haven't left us much of a choice here though with your ridiculous claims.
quote:The fact that you think that I'm being arrogant is pretty amusing
I mean, I get that you think that
This post was edited on 2/11/16 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 2/11/16 at 5:04 pm to GatorsGators
I mean, you are. You continue to contend that somehow these toxic boosters brought a good man down, even after like, 6 pages of posters telling you how ridiculous that is.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 5:05 pm to GatorsGators
He would've gotten another HC job if it was just bad circumstances or he wasn't given a fair shake. Somebody else would notice what you're apparently noticing.
Unfortunately it couldn't be any clearer that he was given every opportunity and straight up failed. That's why he's back to being an assistant.
Unfortunately it couldn't be any clearer that he was given every opportunity and straight up failed. That's why he's back to being an assistant.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 5:12 pm to genro
quote:You don't think that he could have gotten a HC job at a low-major if he had wanted?
He would've gotten another HC job if it was just bad circumstances or he wasn't given a fair shake. Somebody else would notice what you're apparently noticing.
Unfortunately it couldn't be any clearer that he was given every opportunity and straight up failed. That's why he's back to being an assistant.
An assistant job in the NBA isn't exactly a shitty job
This post was edited on 2/11/16 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 2/11/16 at 5:17 pm to GatorsGators
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An assistant job in the NBA isn't exactly a shitty job
He would have taken a head coaching job if one was available to him.
The lengths you'll go to defend Grant make me think you actually are Anthony Grant.
This post was edited on 2/11/16 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 2/11/16 at 5:20 pm to GatorsGators
tell me why UF did not hire him will Billy the Kid went to to OK. City.
If he was such a great coach as you say. Did you guys even have him on your short list. His biggest failure was not promoting the BB team with the local media. He was an introvert in an extroverted world and that chit does not bode well for a big time program, which is what Alabama was under Wimp and aspires to get back too. People say he recruited well. Proof is in the pudding at the few players that made it to the NBA
If he was such a great coach as you say. Did you guys even have him on your short list. His biggest failure was not promoting the BB team with the local media. He was an introvert in an extroverted world and that chit does not bode well for a big time program, which is what Alabama was under Wimp and aspires to get back too. People say he recruited well. Proof is in the pudding at the few players that made it to the NBA
Posted on 2/11/16 at 5:21 pm to imjustafatkid
Rick Ray is a HC right now
You don't think they'd take Grant over him?
Grant is still too high-profile of a name to accept a SWAC level job. He'll wait in his cushy NBA job until a mid-major comes calling.
I'm sure some arrogant fan will fight me on this point too, though
You don't think they'd take Grant over him?
Grant is still too high-profile of a name to accept a SWAC level job. He'll wait in his cushy NBA job until a mid-major comes calling.
I'm sure some arrogant fan will fight me on this point too, though
Posted on 2/11/16 at 5:23 pm to GatorsGators
when will one come calling? How many years?
Posted on 2/11/16 at 5:28 pm to aspiclark
Dude is trolling. Ignore him.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 5:45 pm to AHM21
quote:other two parts sound strong. Thus...not so much
Instead, his players and fans quit on him. He was a great hire, but way overrated when you look at what little he did once Gottfried's recruits were gone.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 5:49 pm to JuiceTerry
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Dude is trolling. Ignore him.
Maybe he's just delusional.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 6:37 pm to imjustafatkid
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Maybe he's just delusional.
The fact that his has made it to 9 pages this would be 100% correct. Dude has fricking lost it.
Grant blew. Move on.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 7:00 pm to RTR America
Or maybe I just disagree with you and don't care that my opinion goes against the grain
At least that's what the voices have told me
At least that's what the voices have told me
Posted on 2/11/16 at 7:17 pm to GatorsGators
Haven't read the whole thread, but was Shaka his main assistant at VCU?
Posted on 2/11/16 at 7:33 pm to GatorsGators
You need to learn the difference between a fact and an opinion. The fact is that Grant was a bad fit at Bama and was provided a longer tenure then he should have been given.
Posted on 2/11/16 at 7:35 pm to RTR America
it was the boosters' fault, not grant!!!!!!!!!!!!
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