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This board doesn't get it RE: Butch Jones and Purdue

Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:59 am
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:59 am
First of all, it's probably not happening, so everyone breathe.


Still with me? Good.


Ok. Now let's say it DID happen, some of you think that it's good news for your program or that it's a sign that Tennessee is falling apart and you can laugh.


YOU'RE MISSING THE BIG PICTURE. Butch clearly cannot handle the stress of coaching an SEC program that has high expectations. We knew in year 2 that Lyle was never going to be a championship level coach, but that he could win enough games to get us out of cellar. The team we had this year was good enough to win 11 games, and we ended up winning 8. This is Lyle's ceiling. We're better than we were 4 years ago, BUT 8 wins is not good enough.

The fans are ready to move on, the players are ready to move on, and Lyle is ready to move on.

But firing him is not an option for a few reasons. 1. Buyout- we're in a much better position financially, and paying a huge buyout at this juncture is a stupid business decision long term.

2. We have an outgoing AD, he can't fire Butch and hire someone else.

3. Firing an 8-4 coach looks like a rash emotional decision to perspective coaching candidates. While everyone agrees that Lyle can't take this program to the next level, you can't justify termination based on Tennessee's record over the last 9 years.




However, if he leaves on his own, it's the best possible thing for all parties involved.

1. We not only avoid paying a buyout, but Purdue (or whoever) would actually OWE us money. I said a couple weeks ago that we're gonna be flush with cash, and we are, whether he leaves or not.

2. We no longer have to sell the program as a rebuilding project, so we're going to get better candidates than we have with the last 2 coaching searches.

3. The incoming AD (hopefully Blackburn) gets to avoid firing Butch next year. If the new AD is Blackburn, he's dedicated to winning and understands the importance of spending money to get the best possible people for the job. Check his resume, Blackburn should scare the shite out of this conference, he's a beast.

And 4. For Lyle, he gets to leave before the bottom falls out next year. He can claim that he brought Tennessee out of the celler, and he did. He gets to leave for a less stressful job with lower expectations after 3 consecutive winning seasons.


You better hope Lyle doesn't leave for Purdue, or whoever, because it's bad news for your team (unless you're Alabama, because not even Zombie Robert Neyland can derail that train ).





But as I said, it's probably not happening, because we're not that lucky.

Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:00 am to
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
41524 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:04 am to
Baw, Tenner has coaches leave your programs for a shittier one (See Counzo and Cal). Not a good look.
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 6:07 am
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:06 am to
Hey, Kentucky fan, you can't even get within single digits against Lyle, your opinion means dick.


Know your role, and shut your mouth.
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
41524 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:08 am to
Eat a bag and gag. No one care about your whining and acting like a bitch on here. Grow a sack and stfu...your act is getting old.
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
9804 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:08 am to
An AD should "scare the shite out of this conference"? You fricking Vols are an amusing bunch.
Posted by No Colors
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Member since Sep 2010
10315 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:08 am to
Your premelt is glorious.

34-3
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 6:13 am
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:13 am to
quote:

You're premelt is glorious.



Dude, I will throw a party if it happens.


And btw, Nick Fitzgerald just scored again
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30458 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:14 am to
I don't see TN as a "much improved" team as you claim. I think 8-9 wins is likely the standard moving forward, the program as a whole has taken a major hit.

No AD is going to scare fans or other schools. It would be difficult to be worse than your current AD.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:15 am to
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WildcatMike



Nice for you to show up, you disappeared after our game again this year. But you did avoid the annual 50 BOMB by 1 point, so you got that going for you
Posted by FiddleHead
Knoxville, TN
Member since Aug 2011
14776 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:16 am to
Ole Miss and Kentucky fans talking shite
fricking classic
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:17 am to
VS I wanted to see Lyle get a lifetime contract damn it. But you and I both know that UT is going to have less talent on its 2017 squad than this year for sure. Butchy knows it. He is better off not being fired and leave of his own accord,

However, you lost me with the announcement that Blackburn as AD would change things dramatically....he might and he might not and that's even if he is hired. UT could be headed to another nosedive and leave the door open wider for UF & UGA to start exerting themselves. UF will have an offense soon and UGA is a still a year away. UK will be better in 2017 and maybe even VU.
Posted by No Colors
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:17 am to
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Ole Miss and Kentucky fans talking shite

This is a unique situation. V&S deserves it.

And besides, this is TN we're talking about.

Their line just gave up another sack.
Posted by FiddleHead
Knoxville, TN
Member since Aug 2011
14776 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:20 am to
Tennessee's program is miles ahead of Ole Miss'
Shouldn't you be worrying about your high school coach and soft arse defense that state just hung 50 on
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:21 am to
quote:

. I think 8-9 wins is likely the standard moving forward, the program as a whole has taken a major hit.



8-9 wins being the standard is fine, 8-9 being the ceiling is not. And the program is in a much better position than it was 4 years ago, to say otherwise is fricking retarded.


You need to look beyond your hatred for Tennessee and be objective, I know that's a lot to ask from this board, but try.


I don't expect my OP to be popular, but I'm not a sunshine pumper, never have been. If Phil or Serraneaux had posted it, you'd be able to laugh it off as homerism. But when I post it, it's Gospel.
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
41524 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:23 am to
Baw, I don't think UT ran all over UK this year....considering we put over 600 yards of offense on that shitty "Orange Swarm" defense. I am enjoying your "defcon" meltdowns...it is entertaining....you're making a fool out of yourself. Your a bitch...and your giving us the ammo to slam you on it.
Posted by WildcatMike
Lexington, KY
Member since Dec 2005
41524 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:25 am to
Coming from a fan who was selling his soul because LSU did not hire a better coach...you need to sack up too buttercup.
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 6:27 am
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:27 am to
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Baw, I don't think UT ran all over UK this year..


we let you score 2 TDs in garbage time, you got your arse beat, and you know it.


quote:

I am enjoying your "defcon" meltdowns...it is entertaining


It's "frickitCON", and it's meant to be entertaining you simple bastard.

quote:

Your a bitch...and your giving us the ammo to slam you on it.



This is why your own fanbase tells you to shut the frick up.
Posted by Sid E Walker
InsecureU ©
Member since Nov 2013
23882 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:28 am to
quote:

Ole Miss and Kentucky fans talking shite
fricking classic

This is what Tennessee has become.
Posted by FiddleHead
Knoxville, TN
Member since Aug 2011
14776 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:28 am to
I had a meltdown but I'm still an LSU fan and will probably be going to the bowl game.
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 6:29 am
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