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The truth behind Hugh Freeze's guilt - vouching for Ole Miss fans
Posted on 5/17/17 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 5/17/17 at 3:07 pm
It isn't that he was cheating.
It's that he was caught cheating and was becoming relevant. Ole Miss was beginning to give Bama fits. Saban was getting outcoached by Hugh, and it was affecting the cash cow narrative perpetuating that Saban is the GOAT coach, and we get to witness the age of his greatness. He's well connected to Mark Emmert, the president of the NCAA, and BAMA gets a slant from the SEC offices being located in Birmingham.
IMO, Hugh wasn't doing anything more than virtually every major program. Former coaches in the SEC have said there is some unspoken code. Schools expect each other to cheat, but usually do not throw stones because of M.A.D. or mutually assured destruction. It is in the same thread of logic like how every super power maintains threat of nuclear strike. It is strictly a deterrent.
Saban is one of the only coaches who can work behind the scenes to get the NCAA digging around without fear of retaliation. Saban has constantly been known for pushing the boundaries thus leading to the creation of a number of new NCAA rules directly in response to his "creative" thinking. I know while Saban was working for LSU, he was responsible for setting up the booster system that we currently use. For instance, our south florida recruiting was set up originally by Saban's booster footprint starting with Dwayne Bowe. Our booster in that area comes through nearly every recruiting class. Kevin Toliver, Pat Peterson, Dwyane Bowe, and soon to be Pat Surtain.
I know most of you will think black helicopters, and I suppose denial must be nice. All major programs use booster's to cheat. As long as it is not blatant, or you don't disrupt the order of things, then you are not gonna get ratted out.
Hugh did not get caught because he is a cheater; he is under the microscope because he was disrupting the powers that be. If left to his devices, Saban was trending toward an automatic loss every year as he couldn't outscore or contain Hugh's offense.
As an LSU fan, I support Hugh 100 percent, and I don't believe he is any more or less guilty than most if not all SEC coaches.
If you tldr as a reply, I understand. It must be difficult to blow the almighty angry midget while trying to SEC Rant.
It's that he was caught cheating and was becoming relevant. Ole Miss was beginning to give Bama fits. Saban was getting outcoached by Hugh, and it was affecting the cash cow narrative perpetuating that Saban is the GOAT coach, and we get to witness the age of his greatness. He's well connected to Mark Emmert, the president of the NCAA, and BAMA gets a slant from the SEC offices being located in Birmingham.
IMO, Hugh wasn't doing anything more than virtually every major program. Former coaches in the SEC have said there is some unspoken code. Schools expect each other to cheat, but usually do not throw stones because of M.A.D. or mutually assured destruction. It is in the same thread of logic like how every super power maintains threat of nuclear strike. It is strictly a deterrent.
Saban is one of the only coaches who can work behind the scenes to get the NCAA digging around without fear of retaliation. Saban has constantly been known for pushing the boundaries thus leading to the creation of a number of new NCAA rules directly in response to his "creative" thinking. I know while Saban was working for LSU, he was responsible for setting up the booster system that we currently use. For instance, our south florida recruiting was set up originally by Saban's booster footprint starting with Dwayne Bowe. Our booster in that area comes through nearly every recruiting class. Kevin Toliver, Pat Peterson, Dwyane Bowe, and soon to be Pat Surtain.
I know most of you will think black helicopters, and I suppose denial must be nice. All major programs use booster's to cheat. As long as it is not blatant, or you don't disrupt the order of things, then you are not gonna get ratted out.
Hugh did not get caught because he is a cheater; he is under the microscope because he was disrupting the powers that be. If left to his devices, Saban was trending toward an automatic loss every year as he couldn't outscore or contain Hugh's offense.
As an LSU fan, I support Hugh 100 percent, and I don't believe he is any more or less guilty than most if not all SEC coaches.
If you tldr as a reply, I understand. It must be difficult to blow the almighty angry midget while trying to SEC Rant.
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Posted on 5/17/17 at 3:08 pm to BillyBobBlitzkrieg
frick
Posted on 5/17/17 at 3:09 pm to craigbiggio
Posted on 5/17/17 at 3:10 pm to BillyBobBlitzkrieg
I'm not reading all that shite. Have a downvote.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 3:11 pm to BillyBobBlitzkrieg
Posted on 5/17/17 at 3:12 pm to BillyBobBlitzkrieg
When was the last time Saban took to twitter and demanded if anyone had any violations to report to send them to Bama compliance? I'll hang up and listen...
Posted on 5/17/17 at 3:14 pm to BillyBobBlitzkrieg
If any of that bullshite is true it could be easily proved by any lawyer with a pulse. Problem is it's 100% bullshite.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 3:17 pm to BillyBobBlitzkrieg
So basically you're saying if we didn't beat Bama two years in a row that the NCAA wouldn't have been breathing down our neck?
Posted on 5/17/17 at 3:18 pm to Tdot_RiverDawg
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When was the last time Saban took to twitter and demanded if anyone had any violations to report to send them to Bama compliance? I'll hang up and listen...
Not saying that wasn't a grave misstep. That was just plain dumb. Saban's hands aren't clean. Bo Davis took the wrap for one of his missteps.
The man got a judge to let Cam Robinson off with a felony charge of drugs with a gun - a major offense - with the sole explanation that they shouldn't be punished because they sweat outdoors during the summer while non athletes stay inside in the AC. That is possibly the worst cover up for an under the table deal I have ever heard. And he pulled it off in Louisiana with a Louisiana judge. The guy isn't the GOAT coach - he is the best politician and strings puller. When you are set up to recruit the way he does, have officials slanted your way, get your star juniors back for their senior season, and wiggle your way out of cheating - then you are what people call Teflon dawn. Nothing sticks with him, and that's how and why he wins as consistently as he does.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 3:18 pm to BillyBobBlitzkrieg
My one regret is that I have but one downvote to give
This post was edited on 5/17/17 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 5/17/17 at 3:20 pm to BillyBobBlitzkrieg
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It must be difficult to blow the almighty angry midget while trying to SEC Rant
BRB, getting some bleach for my eyes
Posted on 5/17/17 at 3:24 pm to Freezus22
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So basically you're saying if we didn't beat Bama two years in a row that the NCAA wouldn't have been breathing down our neck?
That's exactly what I am saying. If Vanderbilt were cheating on the exact same level as Hugh and Ole Miss, but only winning one or two more games a year against mid tier teams, no one would go sniffing around there.
Has it not occurred to anyone else that as soon as Hugh was beating Saban consistently, all the sudden these violations came popping up?
I remember 4 or 5 years back, Ole Miss signing some big time OL - tackle, and Saban threatened to turn Ole Miss in for cheating because he was previously commited to Bama. Then the player posted on twitter that Bama bought him a 10K watch or something, and he took it down within 5 minutes of posting.
When players commit to Bama, they rarely decommit and sign with someone else out of fear or retribution. It's logically transparent.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 3:26 pm to MaroonNation
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If any of that bull shite is true it could be easily proved by any lawyer with a pulse. Problem is it's 100% bull shite.
You have no idea how big business works. This is a continuous proxy war. The powers that be do not directly get involved. It called plausible deniability. Think outside the box, and try not to be so niave.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 3:27 pm to BillyBobBlitzkrieg
Posted on 5/17/17 at 3:27 pm to Swm323
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My one regret is that I have but one downvote to give
I bet I can guess what your dad's one regret would be....
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Swm323
Posted on 5/17/17 at 3:28 pm to BillyBobBlitzkrieg
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So basically you're saying if we didn't beat Bama two years in a row that the NCAA wouldn't have been breathing down our neck?
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That's exactly what I am saying
So, if it can be proven that the NCAA was looking at Ole Miss before Hugh even got there, then you won't have a leg to stand on?
Posted on 5/17/17 at 3:28 pm to BillyBobBlitzkrieg
way to troll the gumps. I give it a solid B+.
frick the midget.
frick the midget.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 3:31 pm to BillyBobBlitzkrieg
You are a real fricking genius.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 3:31 pm to CrimsonCrusade
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CrimsonCrusade
Propaganda 101 - a simple lie continuously repeated will be accepted by the masses before a complicated truth.
There are lots of behind the scenes with anything concerning big business. Booster's are comparable to lobbyists in Washington.
Posted on 5/17/17 at 3:34 pm to Vecchio Cane
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So, if it can be proven that the NCAA was looking at Ole Miss before Hugh even got there, then you won't have a leg to stand on?
Depends on the definition of looking at. The point would continue to be substantiated without initiation, but with the inclusion of acceleration. If Saban were to pull strings to catalyze the process, the point would still be valid. If you can prove that one way or another, be my guest...
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