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The pre-SEC era South's best teams (a.k.a. Vandy feel-good thread)

Posted on 6/26/15 at 2:06 pm
Posted by TheDude321
Member since Sep 2005
3154 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 2:06 pm
If Wikipedia can be believed, here are the conference champs in the conferences that were forerunners to the SEC (that is, the SIAA from 1895-1921 and SoCon from 1922-32). Current SEC teams are in boldface:

1) Vanderbilt - 13 (1897, 1901, '03, '04, '05, '06, '07, '10, '11, '12, '15, '22, '23)
2) Georgia Tech - 8 (1916, '17, '18, '20, '21, '22, '27, '28)
3) Auburn - 7 (1900, '04, '10, '13, '14, '19, '32)
4) Tulane - 5 (1920, '25, '29, '30, '31)
5-tie) Alabama - 4 (1924, '25, '26, '30)
5-tie) Louisiana State - 4 (1896, 1902, '08, '32)
5-tie) Sewanee - 4 (1898, '99, 1903, '09)
8) Tennessee - 3 (1914, '27, '32)
9-tie) Clemson - 2 (1900, '02)
9-tie) Georgia - 2 (1896, 1920)
9-tie) North Carolina - 2 (1895, 1922)
12-tie) Centre - 1 (1921)
12-tie) Cumberland - 1 (1903)
12-tie) North Carolina State - 1 (1927)
12-tie) Washington & Lee - 1 (1923)
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
16316 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 2:09 pm to
Literally nobody cares
Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
17290 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 2:12 pm to
About Arkansas.
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
13459 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 2:14 pm to
Original Big 6
Posted by rebelcommodore
Vienna
Member since Jun 2014
3728 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 2:15 pm to
Powerhouse
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54595 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

Powerhouse
Posted by TheDude321
Member since Sep 2005
3154 posts
Posted on 6/26/15 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

Original Big 6


7, actually (because there is a three-way tie here for fifth place)...unless you're counting current SEC teams on this list only--in that case, the Big 6 has the same exact membership as today, except Florida has Vandy's membership slot now.
Posted by TheDude321
Member since Sep 2005
3154 posts
Posted on 6/28/15 at 9:33 pm to
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Literally nobody cares


Okay, just to make you happy, I tabulated a similar list for the SEC's expansion teams:

1) Missouri - 9 (1893, '94, '95 in the WIUFA; 1909, '13, '19, '24, '25, '27 in the Big 8)
2) Texas A&M - 5 (1917, '19, '21, '25, '27 in the SWC)
3-tie) Arkansas - 0
3-tie) South Carolina - 0
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 6/28/15 at 9:47 pm to
quote:

Literally nobody cares


Literally? I'd say that, figuratively, literally probably doesn't mean what you think it means.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54595 posts
Posted on 6/28/15 at 10:05 pm to
quote:

5-tie) Sewanee - 4 (1898, '99, 1903, '09)


1899 F*ck*n Iron Men of Sewanee!!



Home games in BOLD
10/21 vs Georgia (Atlanta) W 12–0
10/23 @ Georgia Tech (Atlanta) W 32–0
10/28 vs Tennessee (Sewanee) W 46–0
11/03 vs Southwestern Presbyterian (Sewanee) W 54–0
11/09 @ Texas (Austin) W 12–0
11/10 vs Texas A&M (Houston) W 10–0
11/11 @ Tulane (New Orleans) W 23–0
11/13 @ LSU (Baton Rouge) W 34–0
11/14 vs Ole Miss (Memphis) W 12–0
11/20 vs Cumberland (Sewanee) W 71–0
11/30 vs Auburn (Montgomery) W 11–10
12/02 vs North Carolina (Atlanta) W 5–0
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 6/28/15 at 11:41 pm to
The Southern Conference technically never went away, it's still around, it's now just a DI-AA/FCS conference. All the big schools that were a part of it the early days spun off into the SEC and the ACC.

Chattanooga
Samford
Western Carolina
Wofford
The Citadel
Furman
Mercer
VMI

are the current football members.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29639 posts
Posted on 6/29/15 at 6:53 am to
quote:

7, actually (because there is a three-way tie here for fifth place)...unless you're counting current SEC teams on this list only--in that case, the Big 6 has the same exact membership as today, except Florida has Vandy's membership slot now.


um - big 9? GT, Tul & Sew...
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30583 posts
Posted on 6/29/15 at 8:56 am to
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quote:Literally nobody cares Literally? I'd say that, figuratively, literally probably doesn't mean what you think it means.
A semantic body slam!..only a Vandy guy would've done it.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
33935 posts
Posted on 6/29/15 at 9:16 am to
1) Vanderbilt was the South's first good program. They won 10 conference championships in 15 years between 1901 and 1915 (think about that for a second).

However, Vanderbilt had a lackluster record against Eastern and Midwestern powers. In their heyday, they lost to Michigan 6 times between 1905 and 1914. They lost to Ohio State 2 years in a row (1908-1909). They lost to Harvard in 1912. They managed ties against Navy in 1907 and Yale in 1910.

Vandy's biggest accomplishment was beating Carlisle 4-0 in 1906. That team is widely remembered as Vandy's best. But let's remember, they lost to Michigan that year 10-4, and Vandy did not win a share of the MNC by any selectors.

2) The South's first great team was 1917's Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets led by coach John Heisman. This team beat Penn 41-0, Vanderbilt 83-0, and Carlisle 98-0. They were widely considered to be the lone national champs that year, although Pittsburgh disputed it.



This post was edited on 6/29/15 at 9:21 am
Posted by TheDude321
Member since Sep 2005
3154 posts
Posted on 6/29/15 at 12:22 pm to
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The South's first great team was 1917's Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets led by coach John Heisman. This team beat Penn 41-0, Vanderbilt 83-0, and Carlisle 98-0. They were widely considered to be the lone national champs that year


Texas A&M's 1917 team disputes this.
This post was edited on 6/29/15 at 12:35 pm
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54595 posts
Posted on 6/29/15 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

1) Vanderbilt was the South's first good program. They won 10 conference championships in 15 years between 1901 and 1915 (think about that for a second).


Good or bad, they made Texas stop scheduling them for the State Fair and they started playing Oklahoma, a team they could actually beat.
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