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re: The latest NCAA snafu: Cost of attendance

Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:13 am to
Posted by bulldawger
Fish Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2010
2882 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:13 am to
Last I heard there is a formula that each school uses.

I'm not sure what all is included in that formula. But this is being addressed, post haste, by the ADs and coaches. It was discussed at length at the SEC meetings in Destin. Eventually this will be evened out.

But until then, Auburn and Tennessee continue to pay their players more than anyone else.
Posted by GeauxToBed
Covington, LA
Member since Mar 2015
6113 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:44 am to
Meh... Our boosters will just step up the $100 handshakes. Nothing to see here...
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:45 am to
And right on que the Dawgs will do this the "Georgia Way" and lag behind the others until we are forced to adjust. Dawg forbid UGA ever be a driver in this stuff.
Posted by GuyFromGulfport
Coastal Land Mass
Member since Nov 2010
54 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:52 am to
Prediction: 'Bama will be the first school to pass the $10,000 COA barrier.
Posted by Sarcastro
Member since May 2012
1364 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:57 am to
I don't blame Tennessee or anybody else working within the system to improve their program. I do wonder why the NCAA thought this would work with so little oversight. Obviously, schools are going to game it to try to get a recruiting advantage.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:58 am to
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Prediction: 'Bama will be the first school to pass the $10,000 COA barrier.


I don't know- Bama's more into performance bonuses.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:02 am to
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I don't blame Tennessee or anybody else working within the system to improve their program. I do wonder why the NCAA thought this would work with so little oversight. Obviously, schools are going to game it to try to get a recruiting advantage.


Exactly, and even if the SEC fixes it- the SEC will still have to complete with the Big10/Pac12, etal.

Since everything else is covered this is pure pocket $$. The difference in AU/ UT's $5K and UGA's $2.5K is pretty big to a 19 year old. I worked every summer in a un-air-conditioned warehouse for $2500.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 11:04 am
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:08 am to
It really was such a ridiculous loophole that everyone saw coming. Now they will fight over it and change it in a couple years when it could have been resolved so simply from the very beginning. It's hilarious that a city like Starkville, Tuscaloosa, or Auburn supposedly has a higher cost of living than LA or Seattle. Just make it the same for everyone, or I would even be fine with the NCAA deciding what each school can pay based on a neutral third party cost of living calculation.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:12 am to
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At some point the conference commisioners will come to the conclusion that someone will have to regulate this and since the NCAA already exists, might as well have them do it.


I bet it's a conference wide standard first.
Posted by Bama54
Neverland
Member since Nov 2011
5017 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:13 am to
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2. Auburn: $5,586 ($621)


Wow! I thought the athletic dept was in the hole?
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:13 am to
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. I do wonder why the NCAA thought this would work with so little oversight


remember this was put in place by the P5 org to ensure they can "buy" a competitive disadvantage over the other conferences. This will mean the little guys in the MACs, CUSAs, Mountain Wests, AACs will never get a recruit the P5s want, not that they often do now, but this will put any end to it at all. The NCAA is essentially doing as they are told.

It also means the SEC, BIG and PAC will eventually "outbid" the ACC/b12 for the best recruits.

While this will probably help Mizzou as much as anyone in recruiting, I still don't like it.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 11:18 am
Posted by Bama54
Neverland
Member since Nov 2011
5017 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:15 am to
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As it turns out, Alabama's cost of attendance stipends will rank among the leaders nationally


Yet still less than AU...your point?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
57002 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:26 am to
quote:

. It's hilarious that a city like Starkville, Tuscaloosa, or Auburn supposedly has a higher cost of living than LA or Seattle. Just make it the same for everyone, or I would even be fine with the NCAA deciding what each school can pay based on a neutral third party cost of living calculation.


A big portion of it is travel. They factor geographical center of student population(for both in state vs out of state) then use that location as a distance from the school in the calculation.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 11:26 am
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:31 am to

Our Engineering, Medical and J school attract a lot of students from around the globe, clearly we aren't "factoring" properly..
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:39 am to
I honestly think that they should scrap this whole mockery of a system and just give the boys a piece of the profit. Whatever the football program brings in, just give them a percentage. That is truly the fair way to go about it.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139670 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:48 am to
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And right on que the Dawgs will do this the "Georgia Way" and lag behind the others until we are forced to adjust. Dawg forbid UGA ever be a driver in this stuff.


We are in the same boat with Foley's stance that "We are Florida. We don't need to stoop to this type of stuff."

Welp, that's what's kept us from having waterfalls, MMA rings and hookers in our football facilities.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:49 am to
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remember this was put in place by the P5 org to ensure they can "buy" a competitive disadvantage over the other conferences. This will mean the little guys in the MACs, CUSAs, Mountain Wests, AACs will never get a recruit the P5s want, not that they often do now, but this will put any end to it at all. The NCAA is essentially doing as they are told.


You are acting like they really really wanted to do this. They didn't want to pay out anything. Lawsuits forced them to create this solution to placate the courts.

And honestly the courts aren't done. There are some cases coming down the pipeline that could undo college football. Judge Wilken was still kinda sympathetic to the goal of college sports, and even though legally Title 9 isn't an excuse she saw the practicality of not pushing through extreme measures that would kill women's sports.

The next judge might not be so nice. The next judge might say college football needs an outright free agency. Then this whole cost of attendance thing will be a footnote in history.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:50 am to
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And right on que the Dawgs will do this the "Georgia Way" and lag behind the others until we are forced to adjust.


Sig worthy
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
23830 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:53 am to
quote:

You are acting like they really really wanted to do this. They didn't want to pay out anything. Lawsuits forced them to create this solution to placate the courts. And honestly the courts aren't done. There are some cases coming down the pipeline that could undo college football. Judge Wilken was still kinda sympathetic to the goal of college sports, and even though legally Title 9 isn't an excuse she saw the practicality of not pushing through extreme measures that would kill women's sports. The next judge might not be so nice. The next judge might say college football needs an outright free agency. Then this whole cost of attendance thing will be a footnote in history.
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18149 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 11:54 am to
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Wow! I thought the athletic dept was in the hole?


We have a budget loss projected for this year of 5.7 million. MOST of that was the need to upgrade the telecommunications infrastructure for the SEC network.

The budget did not include revenues from the SEC Network,but that will offset the cost. After that we can easily pay the stipend.

My guess of the cost of the stipends is probable around 1.5 million for ALL sports.

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