The latest from Norman.

Actually OU was a target and turned down the SEC few years back.

Once heavy-hitters Memphis, Houston, Cincinnati, and BYU join the conference, Oklahoma will be fine.





What a train wreck.

Honestly, I'm not sure OU has the leadership in place to pull this off.

Everything I get is from boosters/former players.

I understand that those types aren't a great source, but I believe that the money drives everything. I do know for a fact that they want out, and that the dollars are talking, and talking loud.

The rub is the OSU thing, no one really knows if they can or can't go without them, but they feel like Pickens negates any problems with leaving.

I'll be honest, I have no idea what they're thinking. If OSU has to come, it's a non-starter, no matter what Pickens does.

Bringing OU into the conference would be ok IMO. Bringing OSU along would be detrimental, as it doesn't allow for the SEC to get a vital Atlantic Coast school.

Buying into OU with OSU doesn't fit the model. Cutting a deal with OU and ensuring that OSU goes to PAC with kU, etc. does.

The Big 12 is dying on the vine, that much I can tell you.

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They can drive their bus somewhere else. OU will never be invited to join the SEC so please go to another board to post this stupid shite.

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I love how you actually think you know this to be true.

Don't want OU, but id take them in a heartbeat if it meant we could drop A&M or Mizzou.

A few things.

First, OU doesn't care about an easier road. The tide of college football is shifting towards a dominant class. OU sees the future and wants to be part of the dominant class, they feel less than dominant class in the Big 12, and DO NOT like the fact that UT is pushing away from expansion, they want a league with a championship game.

The feeling of not being first rate is rubbing some people the wrong way.

Second, as far as the PAC pushing away lesser programs, etc. They'd have no problem taking kU for basketball, and if OSU and Pickens came along, they wouldn't bat an eye. They would prefer a Texas team in the mix, and that might be a problem. Perhaps the PAC would be willing to take the LHN for what it is and market it better than ESPN has been able to do. Maybe convince UT to throw some shite third tier stuff on there and be done with it. They already have a regional PAC-12 Network.

ESPN would probably be more than willing to market that shite, given they've been kind of fricked on the LHN deal to begin with.

I don't think UT will go indy, pure speculation on my part, but I think the flop of the LHN has made them realize they need a conference.

I realize that, but, the first guys to go in conference expansion were TV sets and AAUs.

With the exception of Nebraska, who promptly lost their AAU and there's like 10000 people there watching on tv.

Pure opinion here but I think OU is thinking that the next move into conference expansion is the elite teams.

There are only two viable schools with AAU and elite status in one or more sports, UT, and god forbid, kU.

UT will never, ever discuss joining the SEC, and kU would look like an intramural team in the SEC.

Those guys go elsewhere. OU can bring some clout, athletically and financially. The AAU thing is kind of a moot point at this juncture. There's only so many of those guys available.

I don't know the inner workings but ESPN seems tighter in cash today compared to a few years ago. I'm not sure they can offer enough money to the SEC right now to justify more teams. OU is late on this.

Oh and one more thing:

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This is a school that wants out of their conference, and from what I've been told feels like it can drive the next round of the conference merry go round.

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They couldn't drive the bus last round, I don't know what makes them think they can this time. OU fans are retarded when it comes to realignment. They don't understand how late to the party they are for everything.