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The Five Worst Penalties ever Delivered by the NCAA - SEC Involved in 2
Posted on 2/10/17 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 2/10/17 at 1:55 pm
1. SMU Death Penalty, 1988 - Shut down football for one year at SMU. Was so bad, SMU had to shut it down a second year. SMU went from a national power to a low level team overnight.
But remember, they were given a very stiff penalty in 1985 (three year probation, two year bowl ban, one year TV ban) and they kept doing it. That's why the 1988 Death Penalty was handed down.
What Happened: 13 players, paid $81,000, Cavalier Attitude, NCAA on a mission.
Since the 1988 Death Penalty, 30 teams have been eligible for the death penalty, with only 2 (McMurry Tennis and Morehouse soccer) receiving it We will never see the death penalty again.
2. The Seven Team Scandal. CCNY won both the NIT and the NCAA Tournaments in 1950 (back when the NIT was actually considered the better of the tournaments) . It was revealed within weeks that three players on the CCNY team were involved in a point shaving scandal.
It eventually hit seven teams, including Kentucky. The SEC barred UK from competing in conference play in the 52-53 season and the NCAA barred all Kentucky sports from postseason play. As for CCNY (City College of New York), they went from powerhouse basketball program to a Division III team.
3. Fab Five. The 1991 Michigan basketball recruiting class was probably the best recruiting class in college sports history. Chris Webber, Jalen Rose, Juwan Howard, Jimmy King, and Ray Jackson. Michigan made the title game in their freshman and sophomore seasons.
A 1996 automobile accident during a high school seniors recruiting trip to the school, revealed a curious relationship between booster Ed Martin and the basketball program.A federal investigation soon revealed that for years Martin had been making payments to players to help him launder money from an illegal gambling operation.
Four players - Webber, Maurice Taylor, Robert Traylor, and Louis Bullock - were found to have taken a total of over $600,000 from Martin. The fallout then came swift and severe. In 1997, coach Steve Fisher was forced out and Michigan decided to impose its own punishment by vacating five seasons of victories, including all NCAA tournament records from 1992-99. Michigan also removed all commemorative banners from those seasons, and put the program on probation for two years. In the official record books, the Fab Five might as well have never existed.
4. The Charley Pell Scandal. Charley Pell took over the Florida program in 1979 and went 0-10-1 in his first season. The Gators were contenders for the SEC title in 1980 and 1981. The NCAA smelled something fishy.
By 1984 it had cited him for an astonishing 107 infractions, including paying for no-show jobs, scalping athletes' tickets, spying on opposing teams, giving free gifts to players, and pretty much anything else you can think of. Pell manned up to the violations and asked to be allowed to resign at the end of the ’84 season, but wasn’t given that chance as he was fired after just three games. The team went on to win the SEC title that year, but the conference university presidents voted to vacate the team's victories because of the violations.
Florida received two years of probation, was banned from TV appearances and bowl games, and lost 20 scholarships.
5. Minnesota Basketball. Many people think the term student-athlete is an oxymoron. Well, that fit the bill when it came to these Golden Gophers. Jan Gengelhoff, the manager of the school’s academic counseling services admitted to doing over 400 homework assignments for numerous basketball players. The news came out just one day before the 1999 NCAA Tournament and resulted in four players being suspended for their first-round game.
Coach Clem Haskins was forced to resign and it was later revealed that he paid Gangelhoff to write papers for the players. The program was put on four years’ probation and was stripped of all wins and conference titles from 1993-94 to 1998-99.
But remember, they were given a very stiff penalty in 1985 (three year probation, two year bowl ban, one year TV ban) and they kept doing it. That's why the 1988 Death Penalty was handed down.
What Happened: 13 players, paid $81,000, Cavalier Attitude, NCAA on a mission.
Since the 1988 Death Penalty, 30 teams have been eligible for the death penalty, with only 2 (McMurry Tennis and Morehouse soccer) receiving it We will never see the death penalty again.
2. The Seven Team Scandal. CCNY won both the NIT and the NCAA Tournaments in 1950 (back when the NIT was actually considered the better of the tournaments) . It was revealed within weeks that three players on the CCNY team were involved in a point shaving scandal.
It eventually hit seven teams, including Kentucky. The SEC barred UK from competing in conference play in the 52-53 season and the NCAA barred all Kentucky sports from postseason play. As for CCNY (City College of New York), they went from powerhouse basketball program to a Division III team.
3. Fab Five. The 1991 Michigan basketball recruiting class was probably the best recruiting class in college sports history. Chris Webber, Jalen Rose, Juwan Howard, Jimmy King, and Ray Jackson. Michigan made the title game in their freshman and sophomore seasons.
A 1996 automobile accident during a high school seniors recruiting trip to the school, revealed a curious relationship between booster Ed Martin and the basketball program.A federal investigation soon revealed that for years Martin had been making payments to players to help him launder money from an illegal gambling operation.
Four players - Webber, Maurice Taylor, Robert Traylor, and Louis Bullock - were found to have taken a total of over $600,000 from Martin. The fallout then came swift and severe. In 1997, coach Steve Fisher was forced out and Michigan decided to impose its own punishment by vacating five seasons of victories, including all NCAA tournament records from 1992-99. Michigan also removed all commemorative banners from those seasons, and put the program on probation for two years. In the official record books, the Fab Five might as well have never existed.
4. The Charley Pell Scandal. Charley Pell took over the Florida program in 1979 and went 0-10-1 in his first season. The Gators were contenders for the SEC title in 1980 and 1981. The NCAA smelled something fishy.
By 1984 it had cited him for an astonishing 107 infractions, including paying for no-show jobs, scalping athletes' tickets, spying on opposing teams, giving free gifts to players, and pretty much anything else you can think of. Pell manned up to the violations and asked to be allowed to resign at the end of the ’84 season, but wasn’t given that chance as he was fired after just three games. The team went on to win the SEC title that year, but the conference university presidents voted to vacate the team's victories because of the violations.
Florida received two years of probation, was banned from TV appearances and bowl games, and lost 20 scholarships.
5. Minnesota Basketball. Many people think the term student-athlete is an oxymoron. Well, that fit the bill when it came to these Golden Gophers. Jan Gengelhoff, the manager of the school’s academic counseling services admitted to doing over 400 homework assignments for numerous basketball players. The news came out just one day before the 1999 NCAA Tournament and resulted in four players being suspended for their first-round game.
Coach Clem Haskins was forced to resign and it was later revealed that he paid Gangelhoff to write papers for the players. The program was put on four years’ probation and was stripped of all wins and conference titles from 1993-94 to 1998-99.
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 1:57 pm to anc
Where will Ole Miss slide in on this list?
3 or 4?
3 or 4?
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:00 pm to Tennessee Jed
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Where will Ole Miss slide in on this list?
3 or 4?
they likely wont get hit as hard as florida did, so prolly 5
Eta: and how is the 21 scholarships and 2 year bowl ban Bama got in early 2000s not on this list? That was crippling for 5+ years.
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:01 pm to Tennessee Jed
Baylor has a shot for #2. I fully believe they will voluntarily shut down their football program for at least a year.
Ole Miss won't crack any of the top five. I found it very interesting. In all five cases, the penalties effectively killed the programs for an extended period of time, except for Florida.
Their cheating was the foundation for their success.
Ole Miss won't crack any of the top five. I found it very interesting. In all five cases, the penalties effectively killed the programs for an extended period of time, except for Florida.
Their cheating was the foundation for their success.
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:05 pm to anc
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Charley Pell took over the Florida program in 1979...By 1984 it had cited him for an astonishing 107 infractions
G.O.A.T.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:07 pm to anc
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By 1984 it had cited him for an astonishing 107 infractions, including paying for no-show jobs, scalping athletes' tickets, spying on opposing teams, giving free gifts to players, and pretty much anything else you can think of. Pell manned up to the violations
and they still wonder why nobody gives them credit for 84
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:11 pm to WG_Dawg
NCAA didn't take that title away as part of the punishment. So the whiny arse presidents got together and did something that had never been done before. And everyone was cheating their arse off back then.
Also took away 1990 title for 2 violations in the late 80s.
Also took away 1990 title for 2 violations in the late 80s.
This post was edited on 2/10/17 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:11 pm to WG_Dawg
I was reading about major penalties and found this one as well.
The UCLA softball team broke enough rules during its 1995 national championship run to result in the NCAA vacating the title and putting the entire UCLA athletic program on a three-year probation.
UCLA’s star pitcher that season was Australian Tanya Harding, who went 17-1 and pitched all four Women's College World Series victories for the Bruins. Harding was only at UCLA from mid-season until the end of the postseason, returning to Australia without completing even one quarter of schoolwork.
As bad as that may sound, the true reason for the punishment was for scholarship violations. Three softball players (possibly Harding, although the players were never identified) were awarded soccer scholarships, putting the Bruins over the limit for scholarship players on the softball team.
How did they think they would get away with that?
The UCLA softball team broke enough rules during its 1995 national championship run to result in the NCAA vacating the title and putting the entire UCLA athletic program on a three-year probation.
UCLA’s star pitcher that season was Australian Tanya Harding, who went 17-1 and pitched all four Women's College World Series victories for the Bruins. Harding was only at UCLA from mid-season until the end of the postseason, returning to Australia without completing even one quarter of schoolwork.
As bad as that may sound, the true reason for the punishment was for scholarship violations. Three softball players (possibly Harding, although the players were never identified) were awarded soccer scholarships, putting the Bruins over the limit for scholarship players on the softball team.
How did they think they would get away with that?
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:12 pm to anc
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Charley Pell took over the Florida program in 1979 and went 0-10-1 in his first season. The Gators were contenders for the SEC title in 1980 and 1981. The NCAA smelled something fishy.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:13 pm to anc
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By 1984 it had cited him for an astonishing 107 infractions, including paying for no-show jobs, scalping athletes' tickets, spying on opposing teams, giving free gifts to players, and pretty much anything else you can think of. Pell manned up to the violations and asked to be allowed to resign at the end of the ’84 season, but wasn’t given that chance as he was fired after just three games. The team went on to win the SEC title that year, but the conference university presidents voted to vacate the team's victories because of the violations.
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Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:13 pm to anc
Miami got away with putting football players on track schollies for years.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:18 pm to bigDgator
The other death penalties:
Louisiana-Lafayette men's basketball: found guilty of more than 125 violations in August 1973. Most of them involved small cash payments to players, letting players borrow coaches' and boosters' cars, letting players use university credit cards to buy gas and buying clothes and other objects for players.
However, the most severe violations involved massive academic fraud. In the most egregious case, an assistant coach altered a recruit's high school transcript and forged the principal's signature. Several boosters arranged for surrogates to take college entrance exams for prospective recruits.
Morehouse Soccer: Morehouse's part-time soccer coach, Augustine Konneh (who had lobbied to get soccer elevated to varsity status two years earlier) signed two Nigerian-born players to play for the Maroon Tigers even though they had played professionally for the Atlanta Ruckus of the A-League two years earlier. They also played a few games for Morehouse before they actually enrolled at the school.
McMurry Tennis: part-time coach Neal Hart and his father arranged to obtain $126,000 worth of grants for 10 players from foreign countries from 2000 to 2004. Division III schools are not allowed to offer scholarships. Even though it was only a one year ban, the school has not added tennis as a sport.
Louisiana-Lafayette men's basketball: found guilty of more than 125 violations in August 1973. Most of them involved small cash payments to players, letting players borrow coaches' and boosters' cars, letting players use university credit cards to buy gas and buying clothes and other objects for players.
However, the most severe violations involved massive academic fraud. In the most egregious case, an assistant coach altered a recruit's high school transcript and forged the principal's signature. Several boosters arranged for surrogates to take college entrance exams for prospective recruits.
Morehouse Soccer: Morehouse's part-time soccer coach, Augustine Konneh (who had lobbied to get soccer elevated to varsity status two years earlier) signed two Nigerian-born players to play for the Maroon Tigers even though they had played professionally for the Atlanta Ruckus of the A-League two years earlier. They also played a few games for Morehouse before they actually enrolled at the school.
McMurry Tennis: part-time coach Neal Hart and his father arranged to obtain $126,000 worth of grants for 10 players from foreign countries from 2000 to 2004. Division III schools are not allowed to offer scholarships. Even though it was only a one year ban, the school has not added tennis as a sport.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:23 pm to bigDgator
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NCAA didn't take that title away as part of the punishment. So the whiny arse presidents got together and did something that had never been done before. And everyone was cheating their arse off back then.
Also took away 1990 title for 2 violations in the late 80s.
Vince Dooley was on the infractions committee. Must be a coincidence.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:32 pm to anc
4) The time Florida acted like Bama and was reminded of the double standard.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:38 pm to montanagator
If the NCAA didn't have a crook running it now Bama's punishment would make SMU's look like a walk in the park. They have to some degree committed every violation any of those schools committed just under Saban, which started with them on probation to begin with.
This post was edited on 2/10/17 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:40 pm to Rabern57
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If the NCAA didn't have a crook running it now Bama's punishment would make SMU's look like a walk in the park.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:45 pm to anc
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Baylor has a shot for #2. I fully believe they will voluntarily shut down their football program for at least a year.
That sanctimonious bunch has their collective head further up their arse than PSU's cult. Make no mistake, they should not be allowed to play another down of football for at least a year if not more (personally, I say kick them out of the NCAA altogether) but it's not going to be a sword they voluntarily fall on.
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Ole Miss won't crack any of the top five. I found it very interesting. In all five cases, the penalties effectively killed the programs for an extended period of time, except for Florida.
Too much money at stake with TV deals that the NCAA has no control over (all done through individual conferences). Ole Miss will get off light, as too will Baylor; giving either the "death penalty" as deserved as it might be would all but kill the Big 12 and would give the SEC scheduling fits. More than anything, it hurts conferences ability to negotiate future TV deals which trickles down/up to affect the NCAA and Universities
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:48 pm to Rabern57
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If the NCAA didn't have a crook running it now Bama's punishment would make SMU's look like a walk in the park. They have to some degree committed every violation any of those schools committed just under Saban, which started with them on probation to begin with.
You mean when we self reported the text book thing? come on man. are you one of those AU fans that grew up in the 70s and b/c of that decade you have an irrational hatred toward Bama that makes you blind toward certain things?
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:48 pm to anc
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In all five cases, the penalties effectively killed the programs for an extended period of time, except for Florida.
Even Florida it knocked back a bit-- look at what happened to the other two big Florida schools in the mid-80s, then look what happened to Florida after they won the 1984 National Title*
*By Bama standards, the school doesn't claim it.
Posted on 2/10/17 at 2:51 pm to Korin
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Vince Dooley was on the infractions committee. Must be a coincidence.
was it a 1 man committee?
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