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The FBI investigation: where is a federal crime involved?
Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:59 pm
Posted on 9/28/17 at 11:59 pm
I want to give the math wiz next door $25k because he wins regional competitions. I want him to work for me when he finishes college.
Why is this a crime?
Hope the attorneys on the site can educate me.
Why is this a crime?
Hope the attorneys on the site can educate me.
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 12:02 am to matthew25
I don’t understand this either.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 12:02 am to matthew25
Someone said yesterday that some of the money floating g around out there came from a Federal Grant.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 12:03 am to matthew25
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I want to give the math wiz next door $25k
Pimping your sister out until you reach your $25K goal is illegal. You hick.
Signed,
SECr Attorney of Law.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 12:04 am to matthew25
If you have evidence of a federal crime then send it to the FBI, otherwise please stop slandering these fine, young coaches.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 12:13 am to matthew25
The federal grant thing mentioned above, plus it's a pretty good bet that quite a few of these transactions crossed state lines, which makes it a federal issue.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 12:14 am to dbeck
I would imagine this.
The General Federal Bribery Statute punishes the offence of bribery in the U.S[iii]. According to 18 USCS prec § 201(b).
Commercial bribery is the giving or offering to give, directly or indirectly, anything of value to any private agent, employee, or fiduciary, without the knowledge and consent of the principal or employer, with the intent to influence such agent’s, employee’s, or fiduciary’s action in relation to the principal’s or employer’s affairs.
Additionally, the Travel Act provides that whoever travels in interstate or foreign commerce or uses any facility in interstate or foreign commerce with the intent to promote, establish, carry on, or facilitate the promotion, establishment, or carrying on of any unlawful activity and thereafter performs or attempts to perform any unlawful activity shall be guilty of a crime[iv]. Unlawful activity includes bribery in violation of the laws of the United States[v].
The General Federal Bribery Statute punishes the offence of bribery in the U.S[iii]. According to 18 USCS prec § 201(b).
Commercial bribery is the giving or offering to give, directly or indirectly, anything of value to any private agent, employee, or fiduciary, without the knowledge and consent of the principal or employer, with the intent to influence such agent’s, employee’s, or fiduciary’s action in relation to the principal’s or employer’s affairs.
Additionally, the Travel Act provides that whoever travels in interstate or foreign commerce or uses any facility in interstate or foreign commerce with the intent to promote, establish, carry on, or facilitate the promotion, establishment, or carrying on of any unlawful activity and thereafter performs or attempts to perform any unlawful activity shall be guilty of a crime[iv]. Unlawful activity includes bribery in violation of the laws of the United States[v].
Posted on 9/29/17 at 12:43 am to randomways
What federal grant? This is shoe company money going to a family to deliver the student.
Is this similar to Reggie Bush case? Didn't Reggie select another NFL agent, and the cuck agent turned him in to the NCAA?
Sure, this is a NCAA case (voluntary association), but not a crime.
Is this similar to Reggie Bush case? Didn't Reggie select another NFL agent, and the cuck agent turned him in to the NCAA?
Sure, this is a NCAA case (voluntary association), but not a crime.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 12:48 am to matthew25
I'm guessing very little of this money was declared income so you can add tax fraud to the charges.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 1:06 am to Armchair_QB
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I'm guessing very little of this money was declared income so you can add tax fraud to the charges.
I’m betting on literally none. It’s shocking so many people don’t realize you can’t move large sums of money without the IRS at least checking it out.
This post was edited on 9/29/17 at 1:09 am
Posted on 9/29/17 at 1:14 am to matthew25
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You are missing the point.
Scholarships are "on the record".
To keep money changing hands away from the NCAA, you also have to keep it away from the government.
Government does not get it's taxes. Government gives grants to people who would not qualify if they reported their Nike income. Hence, fraud.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 1:38 am to matthew25
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:07 am to The_Joker
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I’m betting on literally none. It’s shocking so many people don’t realize you can’t move large sums of money without the IRS at least checking it out.
Yeah it's just not shocking to me anymore that people don't realize these kind of things. Mostly by fans that look at ncaa schools like pro teams.
A msg will be sent when these players, and there parents start to get charged. And/or they start getting the irs knocking on their door asking for back taxes. If that doesn't occur then this kind of stuff won't stop.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 4:55 am to matthew25
Nobody really expects Ole Miss fans to be able to differentiate between what’s right and wrong.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 5:07 am to matthew25
Just a few are the bribary and corruption charges, tax evasion and money laundering. What you described is not what happened. You are not a corporation or someone entrusted with young people's best interests and leading them off to other criminals. This all started out as an SEC investigation until the pink slime involved turned rat on all of this.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 5:52 am to UASports23
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Commercial bribery is the giving or offering to give, directly or indirectly, anything of value to any private agent, employee, or fiduciary, without the knowledge and consent of the principal or employer, with the intent to influence such agent’s, employee’s, or fiduciary’s action in relation to the principal’s or employer’s affairs.
A coach is not an "agent, employee or fiduciary" of a player. Further, if he shared some of the money with the players, then it seems he may have informed them of the financial relationship so that he hasn't violated the statute at all.
What he did was unethical and should cost him his job, and if he gave money to players then it was a clear NCAA violation, but I'm still not sold on it being a crime.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 6:24 am to Dday63
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but I'm still not sold on it being a crime.
Give her hell then, let us know how it works out for you
Posted on 9/29/17 at 6:47 am to cave canem
The attorneys will argue that it is not a crime. But the crime is that Persons accepted a bribe (commission/finders fee) to steer player/people to a financial advisor which compromised and hurt Auburn (victim). Since Auburn receives federal grant money the crime was against Auburn.
In the Louisville case there were no charges YET, not sure why. Same goes for Bama.
In the Louisville case there were no charges YET, not sure why. Same goes for Bama.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 6:53 am to Dday63
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What he did was unethical and should cost him his job, and if he gave money to players then it was a clear NCAA violation, but I'm still not sold on it being a crime.
They have the Auburn coach on tape lying about who the financial advisor had represented and their relationship, among other things. That's fraud.
The shoe companies paying a kid isn't a crime in itself. The crimes come when they take steps to conceal that payment to preserve eligibility. That's when you get into money laundering and tax evasion.
This post was edited on 9/29/17 at 6:54 am
Posted on 9/29/17 at 6:54 am to matthew25
quote:Schools that accept federal grant money (which is probably all especially public colleges/universities) gives the FBI jurisdiction in these matters. There are all kinds of problems if this stuff went down as it seems; bribery, SEC fraud, tax evasion, conspiracy, and I am sure tons of others that haven't been mentioned yet.
What federal grant? This is shoe company money going to a family to deliver the student.
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